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[–] [email protected] 19 points 7 months ago (6 children)

Okay, but it doesn't know where I am. When I type 'dunkin', Google doesn't just know I want hours for a dunkin donuts, it knows which two or three stores I'm probably looking at hours for and it does it without me having to specify.

If I'm looking stuff up on my phone or just want a quick answer, I actually do want the context of all that data on me. I like that when I type the word 'glamour' it knows I'm probably thinking of the bard subclass, and that when I type 'Conan' it knows I probably mean Exiles, not O'Brien. I mean like, I know it doesn't know these things, but it fills in that gap much faster.

I do like the way their search is layed out for doing something more complex, though. It really is a better designed search engine, but I feel like a search engine is the one place I want data collection of some kind, literally because it benefits me.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago

I've wanted to test out Kagi for some time, but I don't really do a hell of a lot of deep-dive searches anymore. I mostly passively read a combination of RSS, stuff I see on Lemmy, and videos that I still watch on the old site while not logged in. And some YouTube stuff.

When I do search for something, it's typically something that I hear about in a podcast and I wanna know more and in the moment I just use my default (goog). I'm not thinking of Kagi cause I'm listening to something already and thinking about that.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (11 children)

10 bucks is too much though for a search engine, at least for me. Especially now that I use LLMs to replace most of the usecases of web searches.

I never used Google much anyway the last few years, I use duckduckgo which isn't quite as bad as google is now. Yeah I know it's just microsoft bling with a lick of paint but they didn't enshittify as much as google. But $10 + VAT is just a lot of money in Spain.

Maybe I'll try the $5 plan though, I never come even close to 300 searches a month anyway.

Edit: SearXNG sounds much better actually, thanks!! <3

Edit2: I installed SearXNG and love it <3 Really thanks for the tips here.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago (3 children)

Stract.com also looks promising.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

stract has same issue mentioned above where search engines are actually the only time i want data on me to be easily accessible. not being able to search "food near me" is frustrating, and no privacy-centered google alternative i've been happy with has had that feature. im fine with my location and other relevant metadata on me getting used in a search, as long as that metadata is in a black box restricted to me that doesn't create a profile for advertising companies

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

I heard Neeva was amazing too, but it ultimately couldn't find enough people willing to pay for a search engine.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 7 months ago (1 children)

How is it that Cory Doctorow hadn't hear of Kagi until March of 2024? It's been widely discussed in tech spaces for quite a while now!

[–] [email protected] 16 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Maybe it's taken him this long to kick the tires and develop an opinion from daily use. There's nothing wrong with that.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Sure but in the article he says that he hadn't even heard of it until some friends mentioned it "last month", which would have been March of 2024. Taking a few weeks to feel it out is one thing but to have not even know it existed until last month is wild.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 7 months ago (4 children)

We don't know what Cory does all day. We know he has a family, I think he has a kid, that means that he has responsibilities that don't involve blogging. For all we know, at the end of the day he curls up with a dead tree book and unplugs to relax. He might not be as online as his overall style might make him appear and we don't know what all circles of people he runs with, so it's entirely possible that he just heard about it.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

I think he has a kid

She'd be about 16, so probably fairly independent by now, but not entirely so.

But he also has actual books to write, in addition to blog articles. I'd imagine he's pretty busy

[–] [email protected] 8 points 7 months ago (1 children)

He writes all day. He can't have time to listen to anyone with his volume of output :D

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