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Windows 10 is the last version of Windows (www.pcmag.com)

submitted 1 year ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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Raising this dead article as Microsoft now delivers extended support pricing details for those who choose not to migrate to the newer version of Windows. The one they were told they'd not ever have to migrate to

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[–] [email protected] 70 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (27 children)

I'll probably get down voted to oblivion, but I remember EVERYONE had the same "I'll never move" rhetoric with Windows 7, and before that Windows XP. Ya'll eventually move.

I've moved 3 of my 6 windows boxes from 10 to 11 and it's not that much different. I just debloat the stuff I don't want and move on. Even that isn't different, ya'll remember nlite? We've been ripping crap we didn't want out of the OS for as long as I can remember.

Hell, I even remeber getting doublespace.exe off my old dos 5 disks so I could use it on my dos 6 and Windows 3.1.1 install. People who use Windows are just more used to tearing down what they don't want rather than building up what they do (*nix). Is it harder these days...marginally...is there more to remove...yup. But it's still the same crap we've always done.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago

Honestly 11 was finally the push I needed to try Linux as my main driver. Gaming finally got to the point where I could switch. The only thing they made in 11 that was beat was AutoHDR. Everything else was annoyance to me.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (31 children)

Maybe to 12, a lot of people stuck with 7 until 10, because 8 sucked. A lot of people stuck with XP because Vista sucked. A lot of people are sticking with 10 because 11 sucks. In history, Microsoft has had a usable OS every other.

If 12 is shit, perhaps Linux will finally get its day.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago

I'll be staying on 10 for as long as possible, so that by the time I have to upgrade people will have found ways to mod most of the bullshit out of the newer version.

[–] [email protected] 143 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Well I suppose they were right. Windows 10 was the last version of Windows for me. I'm okay with not using what little only works on windows. Unless you need something more niche/specialised, windows isn't worth the pain.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 1 year ago (7 children)

I wish I felt this way. I installed SuSE Tumbleweed a while ago, and while I overall liked it, it was so finicky. My bluetooth ceased working after updating a bunch of stuff and I never got it working again. I feel like things are very rarely plug and play with Linux, something Windows has gotten pretty good at since, well at least XP.

Back when I used Linux as my daily driver, around 2007-2011 I was okay with that. Sure I had issues every so often, but I didn't mind spending time to solve them. Nowadays when I spend 8 hours in front of the computer for work, if I want to spend more time in front of the computer it's generally because I either want to enjoy a game, or experiment with music, what have you, and having things spontaneously crap out on me would drive me nuts.

Maybe SuSE Tumbleweed wasn't the right choice. My thinking there was; a rolling distro will always be up-to-date, no more big OS upgrades ever, I'll just set things up the way I like it and that's that.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

That's really the biggest problem I think Linux has, unfortunately it's also one of Linux's best features - it's not a uniform experience. Yours won't be the same as mine, etc.

Some things that should be simple aren't, and sometimes getting things going can be frustrating, and you will without question at some point have to troubleshoot and fix something.

I'm fortunate that I have a lot of background and experience in the industry, and I can understand people don't want to go to that trouble, just like people don't want to learn to cook.

Most things in Linux I find these days do plug and play to some degree, but there is absolutely missing effort and/or openness from the hardware vendors. Like not being able to configure macro keys/extra mouse buttons without a windows vm.

Having said that, I found the way windows was going, adding crap into the os that I don't want, and constantly changing where settings are etc. Changing my defaults, and so on. There's just too much I don't like about the way it's managed. Also, winsecure.

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[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 year ago (4 children)

And the thing of it is, millions of non-tech savvy people would not mind about having to move to Windows 11 and would do so in due course if Microsoft didn't deliberately cripple it so it won't run on a wide swath of not-too-old hardware.

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[–] [email protected] 36 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

You have to understand technology is constantly evolving, which requires upgrades to allow utilization those technologies.
So they probably needed the upgrade for a new EULA, to allow for improved shenanigans built right into Windows, that will be a huge benefit to Microsoft, and would allow closer more invasive monitoring of your system, but wouldn't be legal without the new EULA.
Very legal and very cool. 🤑

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