- "non-citizen american national"
- Background is the flag used by the United States Government
- References US law multiple times
- "Nationality: ... The United States of America"
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Aren't they lovably crazy?
"While the sovereign citizen movement was originally associated with white supremacism and antisemitism, it now attracts people of various ethnicities, including a significant number of African Americans. The latter sometimes belong to self-declared Moorish sects."
https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-hate/extremist-files/ideology/sovereign-citizens-movement
https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-hate/extremist-files/group/moorish-sovereign-citizens
Yes I'm in a Moorish sovcit group actually and take some posts from them. They're mostly less loudly crazy than the white ones in my opinion, mostly speak in gibberish that doesn't translate well to Lemmy. I am not sure they're any saner, just they speak in a weird fashion. I'll post the Moorish sovcit passport later on.
The person who made this is either brilliant or insane.
The person who is selling it is brilliant, the person buying it is insane.
The latter.
The laminate is too small on the bottom one and it bothers me
lol 9999, classic Rookie error, it will come to bite your ass when it is the year 10000
I doubt the world will make it far enough for that to matter.
Should have used ♾️ though.
I love the way they think "without prejudice" are magic words and as such put them in the oddest places.
"I'll have a burger and fries without prejudice. So nowi can pay you in wooden nickels, right?"
I, as a non US user, don't get this. What's up with the ugly business cards with way too much info, that look like fake ID cards?
They're fake ID cards.
See a lot from Australia too. They like to quote the US Constitution. The jokes write themselves.
Germany has these nutjobs too. They sometimes turn violent and kill or harm state agents. They are called Reichsbürger, because they claim the German Reich, which ceased to exist in 1945, actually still exists and by invoking their magic spells you won't have to pay parking tickets or taxes. They are often very close to Nazis and are all idiots and assholes.
because they claim the German Reich, which ceased to exist in 1945, actually still exists
They are often very close to Nazis and are all idiots and assholes.
I'm acting astonished
I expect they just get fines for not paying parking tickets and taxes though right?
State agencies are somehow not susceptible to their magic, so yes. They are treated as a fringe group that is becoming more dangerous, though.
We call these sovereign citizens. They are a loosely connected group of conspiracy theorists who believe by invoking the correct legal terms, they can be covered by, but not behold to, the laws and regulations of the USA.
Sometimes it's just someone who doesn't want to pay taxes. Other times you get this, occasionally they do weird ass communes.
I love that it includes information the real car that doesn't have. Like fields for hair and eye color, you know in case the image is just too hard to look at. And an expiry date, if your card expires thousands of years in the future you probably don't need to keep track of it.
Also it's a solvent citizen why does the card expire at all?
Also what's with the really long random ID number. That's definitely not legitimate.
Hair and eye color are included on real driver's licenses.
It's possible that the ID number is the one she got from filing the UCC-1. I used to work for my state's Department of State where we would put the UCC-1 forms that were submitted on file and issue a file number that was similar to her ID. The main significance of that number was that the UCC was filled. Of course, our office would reject any UCC filings if they were obviously a sovereign citizen (and sovereign citizens are usually not subtle), but some states don't do that.
Don't you know, the longer the ID number the more seriously the government has to take it
Also what's with the really long random ID number.
It looks like a [Year][month][day] timestamp of when the card was made plus some more random seeming numbers at the end. Maybe just random, maybe number of milliseconds since midnight, up to 86,400,000 (2:21am? is that the kind of time someone makes their own ID cards?)
That's definitely not legitimate.
nothing about this is remotely legitimate lol
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