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[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago

I'd love to, but unfortunately we took our borders back.

Maybe in a few years if you'll let us back in 😞

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago

mandating the whole private sector seems different and forcing business owners to do something that many already do will just hurt the vegan movement I think. aim for the public sector maybe? so school n whatnot are required to offer vegan options

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago

How about no.

Veganism isn't like Celiac or life threatening allergies. It's literally a personal choice. A private business is under no obligation to cater to that.

Where government involvement begins and ends in terms of private business is (imo) in mandating no discrimination against things that individuals have no choice about (Gender, sexuality, race, age, etc)

But choices are a different beast. The government has no business being involved in that.

If a Vegan restaurant would do well in that area, someone would open it. If a restaurant does well with their vegan options, they keep them, if they don't do well, they remove them. It's called supply and demand.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Not a lot of signatures but hey, we can still try.

This would be so great, eating vegan in big cities in most countries is doable, but it would be so much easier for smaller places

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago

Yeah you never know when you might be visiting a small town in say Romania. It would be a relief knowing that you can always eat out.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I see no reason why a restaurant should be forced to cater to everybody.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago

Yeah, what’s next, the pizza place has to also serve steaks? The patisserie must serve gumbo?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I'd argue that more or less every restaurant already has at least one vegan 'option', although not necessarily a good one. If they have french fries with ketchup, or bread and margarine, they already comply with a hypothetical law.

And I don't see any way to mandate "offer at least one delicious option" as that's up for debate and nothing objective.

I guess more and more restaurants are adding vegetarian and vegan options nowerdays purely because there's a demand for it. If there's a group of five looking for a restaurant where only one of the group is a vegan, most groups will pick a restaurant that caters everyone's needs. Thus, having no such option will result in less customers and less income.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

It doesn't have to be delicious, but it should contain most of the essential nutrients, at least similar to the non-vegan options. "French fries with ketchup" doesn't meet this requirement.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago

I think there are many fast food restaurants out there where 'just fries with ketchup' is the healthiest choice. E.g. I doubt that fries with Frikandel in the Netherlands or a German Sausage is much healthier than the fries alone. Sure, there's a little added protein but the fat and nitrosamines negate these small benefits.