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Is just such a shock from being in China. Just got harassed and essentially threatened for being a socialist. They searched my bags and commented on my China flag and my little red books and my copy of Blackshirts and Reds. Fucking police state. The security in China is strict, but they don’t give a fuck about your thoughts, whereas this guy was very aggressive about “consequences” for being a socialist.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago

That reminds me of when I was in Helsinki airport.

I still had some time for my flight, and was walking around to get something to eat. The place itself is very cozy, lots of wooden architecture, places arranged to seem like they're in the middle of a forest, etc. Then I look the wrong way and see inside the smokers' lounge. There, a bald middle-aged guy wearing a black hoodie with the coat of arms of Nazi Germany on it, vaping.

I somehow doubt that person got into any trouble for it. One of the rare Germany Ws is that that would be very illegal here.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago (5 children)

wtf the immigration officer was saying all of this when you got back to the US?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago (2 children)

American officials at the airport will grill you on whether you're affiliated with any communist party, they never stopped the McCarthyism.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (8 children)

This has made me realize I really need to up my commie game then because border agents have never said a peep to me. I'm affiliated with 2 anarchist orgs, 1 ML party, and 1 homeless support network. I thought my name would be on a file by now wtf. Fucking Immigration feds are calling me a liberal.

Border control has never stopped me when I've come back to the US from abroad, and I've left the US twice this year already. I had a bag with the Disco Elysium commie symbol (the stars and antlers) but that's probably too subtle. I'm also very visibly non-binary

Ugh do I need to tattoo a sickle and hammer on my face

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago (5 children)

Commies can't immigrate to America. Seriously

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Good. They're afraid and have no counterargument. Scare them Comrade.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Yeah he tried real hard to imply I might get the wall, and I said, you know, I’ll do what I have do do, and you do what you have to do. He calmed down a bit once he realized idgaf what he says, I’m gonna do me, but he was very edgy lmao.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

What I wouldn't do to be able to leave and never come back

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I think my wife and I are gonna retire there, but I have a criminal record, so I can’t work there. Our plan is suck as much capital out of American jobs as we can and then retire there and hope we can live for a long time without her having to go back to work, since I can get a spousal residency.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (4 children)

This is something I have also thought about, if there's no chance of emigration within my working years for me. My pie-in-the-sky future is my wife and I (unfortunately burgerland born and raised) fucking off to the mainland and never looking back, but from my research even residency is still extremely strict if not outright impossible for us without a technical "in"- marrying or heritage- and for that matter pretty much no one on earth wants disabled immigrants (thanks life), so I'm not sure I have a hope in hell. I've worked in tech for a very long time, so there might be something there, but even that seems rough to navigate. Sure would be nice, thougn.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (8 children)

The security in China is strict, but they don’t give a fuck about your thoughts

You sure about that? I have heard plenty of first hand accounts from people who were born there, who live there, and elsewhere who go back to visit family often, that say otherwise.

https://www.artsy.net/article/artsy-editorial-forbidden-images-chinese-internet

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Here I was thinking that you were talking about books, and wanted to talk about how Chinese bookstores with dedicated English non-fiction sections shelve the same alt-right tech-bro fiction you find in the US.

But, no. It's just Pooh and Tank man memes, and thus I'm kind of disappointed.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Yeah I was saddened to see so many Elon and Bill Gates books at Sysiphe. But, they also had Camus, so…. We’ll call it 50:50 haha

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Camus

Going by the political section of his Wikipedia entry, he doesn't seem too much of a leftist. Then again, I know only of the name, not his content.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Random person: tell what they experienced during their trip in China

Smug lib: "Are you sure you really experienced what you say you did? Me (who has never been to China) think you are mistaken."

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago (2 children)

There's a huge difference between "I experienced this" and "I'm extrapolating a huge generalization from my tiny shred of experience".

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

I have heard plenty of first hand accounts from people who were born there, who live there, and elsewhere who go back to visit family often, that say otherwise.

There’s a huge difference between “I experienced this” and “I’m extrapolating a huge generalization from my tiny shred of experience”.

You managed to contradict yourself in consecutive comments, I'm impressed.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago (3 children)

I just asked if they were sure. Questions make you mad I guess?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

You sure come across as confrontational and smug for someone who's just asking questions, and that doesn't negate the fact that you contradicted yourself.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

I have heard plenty of first hand accounts from people who were born there, who live there, and elsewhere who go back to visit family often, that say otherwise.

Also you

here’s a huge difference between “I experienced this” and “I’m extrapolating a huge generalization from my tiny shred of experience”.

When did he claim that, eh?

Yeah, nah, I'm just gonna do a whataboutism on you and ask you about their experiences... for all I know, these people are affiliated with National Endowment for Democracy and other western NGOs, because that would explain a lot

You seem like pro-regime changer, so I guess agree to disagree....

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children)

"Their security" is a bit broad, no? I mean, what are the error bars on that? One airport? That's the bar (I think?) from the American side, so I'm guessing it's the same for the Chinese side.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago (4 children)

Multiple airports, train stations, subway lines, bus stations. But, I can only really speak for northern China and Beijing, I’ll give you that.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (3 children)

Yep. I am. My wife is Chinese, I just spent weeks there, and I’m friend with a rather vocal dissident Chinese citizen, to the point I would even call him an anti-communist. He’s just fine. That is a pretty typical bullshit article. Winnie the Pooh is advertised on tv dude.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago

As a Westerner that attends public events I attract these people indoctrinated by Western propaganda like flies. IF China was an dystopian authoritarian police state they would've hired me by now to supply them with names.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Pooh isn't banned and I am pretty sure neither is "tank man", because PRC television showed the riots live.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

The Hong Kong rioters frequntly use the Xinnie Pooh insult to mock Xi for his skin color and East Asian appearance which expose their anti-Chinese racism and their identity as European diaspora. When I questioned their racist connotation with the Winnie Pooh stereptype, they tried to make irrational excuses or change the topic. The interesting fact is that the self-proclaimed Hong Kong independence advocate used the ban on the Xinnie Pooh racism as the only example of Chinese media censorship. There is also other obvious evidence that the alleged Hong Kong independence movement is an attempts to return Hong Kong under British authoritarian rule like the refusal to talk about the life under British rule, the false association of British colonialism to independence and democratic utopia, the lack of awareness that all their activities in Hong Kong that they openly publicized in media could only exist under a democratic government, and their claim that Hong Kong belongs to sinophobic British people that are rude to Hong Kongers.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

There are tons of anti-CPC arguments one can make, especially by looking at past mistakes and ignoring the subsequent work that has gone into rectifying those mistakes. Heck there are various one issue movements in China that push back against some of what the CPC does.

But, seeing as HK protestors cling onto Pooh memes: it's 100% obvious that it's a foreign op.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago

But actually arguing against CPC policy requires knowledge of that policy, westerners have none beyond "Evil! Bad! Muh Freezepeach!"

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago

I was going to comment about the fact that libs would say otherwise, but you beat me to it.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Room temperature IQ article for a room temperature IQ comment. You new here?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago (3 children)

this is lemmygrad? I legit thought I was banned here. did someone clear the banlist or something?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago (7 children)

We like to do temp bans for people who say silly things, but aren't completely reprehensible. The mods are actually pretty forgiving.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago

I see no evidence of you having ever been banned here https://lemmygrad.ml/modlog?userId=1630772

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Lmaooooo I'm never going back to Amerikkka, fuck that shithole

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago (3 children)

He also thinks it’ll be 5 years until we’re at war. I told him I give it 2 max. Lmaooo

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago

"I give it 2 max" average based comment

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