Music

They don't need money to survive, they just need exposure which is what Spotify provides them. Musicians can survive indefinitely on nothing but praise cocaine and exposure.

/J

Commercial radio stations pay about 12 cents per play, while college stations pay about 6 cents per play. Half of the money goes to the publisher and half goes to the songwriter or songwriters.

It's always been a crap shoot for musicians. They make more money touring which is why even really successful musicians tour well into their twilight years.

Record sales are also a crapshoot. Someone else posted the numbers for those in this thread. Streaming allows more access by more people to more music. But that access results in a cost. The cost is less pay per listen. The entire industry is broken.

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700,000 streams per month across their entire discography gets you to the poverty wage for an individual.

Plus it is entirely passive income once the songs are out so they could tour live in addition, or go get a non-music job if it's not enough.

Because there's a fuckload of people streaming and because they've already paid for it, they do it for hours every day.

There's artists on tens of billions of streams. That's enough to live on for anyone.

Of course if you've got only a few thousand streams then you're going to make fuck all, but you probably weren't going to make anything anyway. You might get a few fans from discovering things on Spotify who might turn up to your gigs or buy that T-shirt or whatever, but with that number of listeners you probably wouldn't even have got any radio play in the old days, let alone make money from albums.

Most people never make money on art, no matter which art it is, or what business model they use. It's just life. If you never hit that mainstream vein, you're going to need a proper job.

Easy.

The average middle class income in Canada is $70,000. All I have to do is get 40.5 million streams per year to afford a small home 2 hours away from the city where I play music.

Honestly, you can be a full-time musician or you can have a comfortable life. You can't have both.

uh cool trick, they don't.

Turns out small artists who pay middle men (publishers, who rake in billions a year) money to host their music on platforms like spotify, who then makes zero money because they run an unprofitable business (damn, if only there was a way to make money from this) and the listeners, who earn them, on average, 0 dollars, from a stream. Which means they lose money.

Pirating your favorite bands music is going to make you more likely to buy an actual physical release, or digital. Thus paying them more in that one interaction than they have potentially ever been paid in your lifetime of listening to them on a streaming service.

Btw, just have a think about the fact that artists, and spotify make ZERO money, more than likely negative money. Only to have a middle man raking in literally BILLIONS of dollars a year. Capitalism truly is something isn't it? Oh and i haven't even mentioned money laundering on spotify either, that's a whole other thing.

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