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I've been the main moderator of the same community since 2016. This evening, i approved my last comment.

I'm leaving for two reasons:

  1. Reddit went public a week ago. I didn’t volunteer to work for a publicly traded company, i volunteered to work for a community. As long as i live under capitalism i accept that my labor will generate value for shareholders, but damned if i ever do it for free. (this is not a Faulkner quote)

  2. April 1st is coming and i'm scared they might do another r/place. Doing in r/place 2022 and 2023 has left me dejected and bitter and i don't want to feel obligated to participate again.

Leaving felt like ripping myself off of something warm i've been comfortably glued to for a long time. Still recommend it for anyone still giving Reddit shareholders free labor


EDIT: there are too many comments to respond to, but i've appreciated all of them! Thank you

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 7 months ago

Shit, man, I know how it feels.

I wasn't any kind of big mod, but it was something I did out of love for a set of related hobbies/interest and the folks that took part in them. I had only really started being a relatively busy mod maybe six months before the shit hit the fan last year. I was having fun, expanding wikis, shooting the bull with everyone. Managed to streamline some automod stuff to filter out bots and trolls. Didn't even mind most of the crap that goes with modding like having to throw a ban or whatever because idgaf, so it was done and over and forgotten once it was necessary.

It was fulfilling in a way I hadn't thought I would have after my back gave out and I couldn't work. I do some volunteer stuff that got started during the height of covid, but that was weekly even then, and had dropped off a lot. So having that "work" to keep my mind busy was nice.

So, yeah man, sorry you had to bow out, it sucks.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Before I left I edited all of my comments to say "fuck u/spez". Very relieving to get the fuck out of there. I fucking despise the idea of working to make money for the rich, never will. If they ever create an economy that forces me to work, the only labor I will do is to make sure they never feel comfortable again.

[–] [email protected] 41 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I deleted my account and left the spez wasteland months ago. You should consider it too.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 7 months ago (3 children)

I left my communities as a moderator last summer already, but kept my account because of a few communities I wanted to keep interacting with. However, after this IPO thing I decided to completely cut it and used a tool to mass delete my comments before deleting my account altogether. Felt relieving!

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[–] [email protected] 50 points 7 months ago (1 children)

. I didn’t volunteer to work for a publicly traded company, i volunteered to work for a community. As long as i live under capitalism i accept that my labor will generate value for shareholders, but damned if i ever do it for free.

I sincerely hope you said this in multiple places on Reddit

There will be a lot of people who don't realise that that's precisely what the IPO means

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[–] [email protected] 55 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (4 children)

I participated and organized the Lemmy banner on the last r/place and it went pretty well. If they ever decide to do another r/place, I don't know if I'll do it. If people haven't left already then they might be stuck there but idk.

I was pretty happy with doing lots of alliances last time with the Fuck Spez Coalition, Germany, and a few others. I just don't want to visit that awful site, it already hurt me a lot last time participating it at all hours of the day and fueling traffic so I probably won't do it again.

Edit: I believe this was the final result

https://lemm.ee/post/2028359

https://lemm.ee/post/2033816

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[–] [email protected] 27 points 7 months ago

r/place has had the soul sucked out of it past the first iteration. I'm not even going to bother checking it this year because I can see the future and I know what the canvas will end up being - bots maintaining flags. I'd be nice if they restricted it to accounts that are at least a year old, but at this point all the accounts people were botting with the last two years are qualified under that definition.

Cool idea, consistently horrible implementation.

[–] [email protected] 62 points 7 months ago

Before June 2023, I was a mod on several Reddit communities for about 13 years and outside of Reddit since the turn of the century. I just kinda stepped back once the Reddit BS happened.

10 months later, my happiness and over all quality of life has improved. Not only am I no longer stressed (bye bye moderation based nightmares!), but I have way more time to dedicate to my passions and goals.

I thought that dedication to holding together a few niche communities and battling the "bad guys" defined me and gave me a sort of immortality.

I was VERY wrong.

Our great grand kids won't be trolling reddit archives, telling everyone how "cool" grandpa was.

The greatest thing I ever did to improve my QOL was step away from moderating and leading communities on the internet as a whole. Doubly so if they involve political talk.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

reddit claims to be the face of the internet. so obviously there are going to be good and bad people...only it seems like there are more bad than good.

you'll also notice,cancel culture is pervasive in social media,to the point it became toxic. any time any facts that doesn't fit the narratives of the idiots,you get downvoted and/or called/branded derogatory names.

an anecdotal observation,i have my fair share of run ins with right wing crazies spouting nonsense on social media such as reddit but honestly, it's mostly the left where i saw true craziness and experienced fascist behaviours.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I never understood the point of place and why it made people become so evil.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 7 months ago

Place was loved by people because it was interesting and showed lots of human ingenuity. People were so angry that reddit abused it in an attempt to take attention away from the criticism and protests. Especially because it was assumed to only happen every 5 or so years, and having two close together felt very abusive by reddit.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

and if you leave and abandoned that sub by delete your account. admin just need to find a new mod on that sub

[–] [email protected] 26 points 7 months ago (1 children)

The only thing I remember about r/place was that they dropped it anytime they did something stupid, like kill the free API, and that they would mod the content which made it a bot spam war fest.

Also the Pakistani flag getting defaced by r/Chodi because insert rent free joke here.

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[–] [email protected] 126 points 7 months ago (2 children)

If you have it in you, please recreate your previous subreddit here in the fediverse. There's less tools, but also far less users, and plenty of room to make tools.

A ton of niche communities didn't make it over here during the "exodus". Any little bit helps.

[–] [email protected] 37 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Shameless plug: /c/Sekiro, /c/Bloodborne

Doing my part :)

[–] [email protected] 33 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Gotta actually link things if you want people to find them, my friend! 😉

[–] [email protected] 8 points 7 months ago

I'm always too lazy to link properly. Thanks for helping out :D

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 7 months ago

Good on you.

I walked away from my sole moderatorship as well, but I think my contribution was considerably less significant than yours... I moderated a tiny all-but-dead niche interest sub where I was also basically the only poster.

That's, like, no difference whatsoever from what I do here. So I just upped sticks and moved to Lemmy, with no noticeable change in my life or workflow.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 7 months ago

@thawed_caveman sorry that happened to you, it sounds difficult. But I think you've made the right decision.

Hope you find a silver lining. For me, moving to the fediverse has been an overwhelmingly positive experience. It's fun being part of something cool that can never be sold out by people like Spez.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 7 months ago (2 children)

This is silly to me. So you're happy working for free at a private company, but not a public one? The fact that them going public was known for a while was fine? The lack of care they showed you as a private company while taking the shitty concrete steps to go public were all fine?

If yu want to take a hard look at your role, when the last revolt during the API changes happened, the revolt failed because mods like you wouldn't stand up. So it's funny to me to see what the "final straw" is for you, because in the grand scheme of things, it seems like nothing.

I certainly don't understand why you would move to another place in the Internet and announce this silly view.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago (1 children)

No need to be an asshole about it, the important thing is that he moved on, the path he took is not relevant.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I didn't think I was being an asshole. The questions I asked were genuine, and I think I was pretty neutral with pointing out how OP shares blame in the situation they are in.

And, through all that, i summed it up with how silly this whole situation is - especially when you look at how OP is responding in the thread. This comes across as a "look at me, I did something good, tell me how nice I am" post. Given the rest of the situations context, just ugh.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

"This is silly to me". Followed by a bunch of snide questions.

"the revolt failed because mods like you wouldn't stand up". Throwing blame on someone that did nothing that harmed you directly, and that even assumes a niche mod would have had any impact in the results at all.

"I certainly don't understand why you would move to another place in the Internet and announce this silly view." Then you go on to call them silly again, and criticize them for making a post in the proper C/ for that kind of venting.

Then your entire comment here is repeating that, doubling down on the same thighs, and then accuse them of begging for attention.

I get it. You didn't think you were being an asshole. You were. To avoid that in the future, try not using language that denigrates, belittles, or dismisses someone, and you are much less likely to end up being an asshole. And you 100% were being an asshole. If there were a textbook in being an asshole online, your two comments could serve as perfect examples of how to do it without resorting to cursing. That's pretty much the only thing you could have done to make it worse without going entirely off topic.

One asshole to another? You gotta either learn not to be an asshole, or own that shit and not pretend you aren't.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I can agree with your point, the API changes should have been the breaking point. Keep in mind there's going to be a lot of different final straws for people though, it is inevitable as traditional social media collapses into itself. The best time was yesterday, the next best is now.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 7 months ago

I totally get that - but coming to another platform to announce it is just funny to me, and I think the questions I asked at the start were valid and I'm genuinely curious about the answers.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 7 months ago

Fuck em, welcome to the fediverse!

[–] [email protected] 21 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Had a 12 year old account. Just got permad. Honestly feels like a weight off my shoulders. That place was making me so toxic.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago

Lost a 14 year old account for an anti-Nazi comment. No more free content for them from me.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

May be an unpopular opinion but I always had an issue with the toxicity of Reddit going all the way back to 2014. I don't know what it is about that site but the people act like absolute pieces of shit more often than should be expected.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago (1 children)

It's because of the anonymity and lack of consequences. If it were in person they'd actually be confronted about it. Online however you can spout the most horrific shit all day ,every week and nothing could happen.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I think it's more than that, a lot of ganging up on people for really stupid reasons. I personally blame the karma system, it's like a dystopian social system that prevents people from being genuine and it's used to hurt people they don't like or agree with

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago

I give this comment 5 Meow Meow Beanz.

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