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Piracy was NEVER stealing (fedia.io)

submitted 5 months ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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It doesn't matter if it's a CD, a Film, or manual with the instructions to build a spaceship. If you copy it, the original owner doesn't lose anything. If you don't copy it, the only one missing something (the experience) is YOU.

Enjoy!

Of course, if you happen to have some extra money for donations to creators, please do so. If you don't have that, try contributing with a review somewhere or recommending the content, spread the word. Piracy was shown to drive businesses in several occasions by independent and biased corps (trying to show the opposite).

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[–] [email protected] 26 points 5 months ago

Using the term "piracy", instead of "filesharing", was always pro-corporate framing. In his 2010 essay "Ending the War on Sharing", Richard Stallman wrote:

When record companies make a fuss about the danger of "piracy", they're not talking about violent attacks on shipping. What they complain about is the sharing of copies of music, an activity in which millions of people participate in a spirit of cooperation. The term "piracy" is used by record companies to demonize sharing and cooperation by equating them to kidnaping, murder and theft.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Of course, if you happen to have some extra money for donations to creators, please do so. If you don’t have that, try contributing with a review somewhere or recommending the content, spread the word.

Why would you bother unless you feel you've taken something from the creator that you feel you need to atone for in some way? If you don't feel you stole it, you surely don't owe the creators anything, you deserve the content you attained without payment just the same as someone that paid money for the same content.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

Tbh, I was just trying to point out that being grateful is possible. In the same way that you return a smile, or give some money when buying goods or services in a context of a solidarity event. For example the other day people were selling hotdogs for "pay what you want" whole raising money for refugee kids. That's how I approach this, copying/ piracy is "pay what you want" (to creators, not platforms). They made some effort to create it, yes. You are not taking anything from them. Nonetheless, you can express economically your gratitude for what they did. Like, homage to celebs.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago

The world doesn't (need to) run on giving only what you owe. People donate to creators not through moral obligation, but because they like what the creator has made and they want to reward them for it and/or enable them to make more of it.

Why do you think Patreon (and others) is so popular? Any cynic would surely point out that from a purely transactional outlook, the donors are getting a bad deal. And yet.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

Where can I copy one of those pins? That's badass

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago

Who cares? Why the reach for moral superiority? I don't have an issue with stealing IP. Because the concept of IP is stupid. But I'm not going to rub myself off over what to call it.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

It's especially true if you do it for archival copies of content you've already purchased.

[+] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago (3 children)

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

Well, because they are under constant 'attack', shaming and/ or blaming. The very name is in that context. Affirming your identity then can't be seen as putting excuses (unless if it were seen from the 'attacker' perspective, of course.)

[–] [email protected] 15 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Piracy? Listen when we start pirating shit, we'll bring a boat and cannons. This is just copying.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Stop pretending you don't know what I am referring to. I am talking about online piracy, which is "the practice of downloading and distributing copyrighted works digitally without permission".

this is just copying

Copying files is not necessarily piracy.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

What's the issue exactly? People pirate for different reasons. We get it, you pirate because you feel like it. You do you. Some people pirate because they can't afford it, or something isn't legally available in their area, or as a protest about greedflation, etc. The high seas welcome all sailors, whatever their motivations, so long as they don't harass their fellow pirates.

By the way, these comments are fucking hilarious guys.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

There's no issue, really. I am just wondering why there seems to be a tendency across piracy community towards ethics, which is just offtopic to me. You're not in a court, and no one cares about your justification.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

The votes on this post tell a different story. What you mean to say is that you don't care. That's fine, jog on bro.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago

Personally, im a Kopimist.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Copying was never piracy

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

Piracy is a pejorative term used by record companies and copyright holders in general in attempt vilify people who won't play along with their gatekeeping and trolling and also make the act of doing it seem scary and wrong.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

So, please read this as serious and no ulterior-motivation.

I'm hoping to release a game in a few years, and naturally I would like to sell it.

I am also supportive of this community and understand somewhat about the release date underground release.

I'd rather either get the revenue from my work directly, or give it away in exchange for donations, trade, or even nothing at all.

All this especially in light of how often independent creators get their shit stolen by megacorps.

Is there something I should be keeping an eye out for, or preparing for so everything goes smoothly at least with regards to this community?

[–] [email protected] 11 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Is there something I should be keeping an eye out for, or preparing for so everything goes smoothly at least with regards to this community?

On the 6th of May, 2028, travel to 2 Augusta Hills Drive, Bakersfield, Kern County, California, United States. At exactly 4 PM local time, place an orange traffic cone on top of the nearest garbage can and await further instructions.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago

This better not be another attempt to reach me about my car's extended warranty, godamnit!

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago

Now you know corporations and government departments will lie to children to benefit the ownership class and harm the labor class.

Let your kids know who authorities really work for, to question everything.

Heck, let the grown-ups know too. Many didn't get the memo.

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