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Reuters reports that AI-related companies lost $190 billion in stock market value on Tuesday following disappointing earnings reports.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Does that have anything to do with the IP power grab that is apparently under way? I've seen the propaganda and the mood seems to be that AI should be monopolized by the few super rich.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Artificial Intelligence at this stage is Artificial Ignorance. It's not ready to be unleashed onto anyone who blindly trusts anything they read.

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[–] [email protected] 29 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Look at the reuters article cited: https://www.reuters.com/technology/ai-companies-lose-190-billion-market-cap-after-alphabet-microsoft-report-2024-01-31/

Jan 30 (Reuters) - AI-related companies lost $190 billion in stock market value late on Tuesday after Microsoft (MSFT.O), opens new tab, Alphabet (GOOGL.O), opens new tab and Advanced Micro Devices (AMD.O), opens new tab delivered quarterly results that failed to impress investors who had sent their stocks soaring. The selloff following the tech giants' reports after the bell underscored investors' elevated expectations following an AI-fueled stock market rally in recent months that propelled their shares to record highs with the promise of incorporating the technology across the corporate landscape.

I don't know that I would say this has anything inherently to do with AI...

The reuters article for AMD specifically: https://www.reuters.com/technology/high-flying-chipmakers-hit-after-amds-forecast-falls-short-2024-01-31/

Jan 31 (Reuters) - High-flying semiconductor stocks slipped on Wednesday after Advanced Micro Devices' (AMD.O) disappointing current-quarter revenue forecast added to investor worries over sluggish demand for non-AI chips

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That overshadowed the company near doubling its AI processor projections to $3.5 billion for 2024.

[–] [email protected] 48 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

What a clickbait "article". The whole stock market is correcting insane growth of last year and in fact the company with the biggest AI investments (Microsoft) crashed the least!

It's rewording the real article from Reuters: https://www.reuters.com/technology/ai-companies-lose-190-billion-market-cap-after-alphabet-microsoft-report-2024-01-31/

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 9 months ago (3 children)

Maybe they should try making products that work instead of trying to shove ads down our throats? How's that for a business model: give the customer what they want?

[–] [email protected] 10 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Many of their customers want them to produce ads.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Fair - but I would hope for a functional product supported by delivery of ads, rather than ads that exist for the purpose of ads so that there can be more ads delivered along with the ads (oh yeah, and somewhere in there, a product... which itself is little more than merely another thinly-disguised advertisement).

Google is the perfect example: it made its name bc it WORKED, then it started to be supported by ads - okay fine so far - then the ads took over and now very often, it merely passes on SEO "ads" (except crucially: remember that was supposed to be the product) rather than show actual results. Plus on top of that, it also shows the ads. The latter are fine but the former are most definitely not, especially when it pushes out real results so that like even on page 5 you can't find what you were looking for, which might still be the very top result of DuckDuckGo hence cannot be that hard to produce. It exemplifies the process of enshittification for us all.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Those products exist. There are plenty of AI products that don't involve ads at all, you pay for a service that uses AI to help do whatever it is the service is about (for example GitHub Copilot). There are open source products that give you those services for free, even.

Some people use those services to create advertising, but it's not like advertising is the only field that this stuff is useful for.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago

Believe it or not, but at one point Google (and similarly many of the products that it owns now, like YouTube) did not have ads in them either...

I am okay with adding ads to them though, to help support future product development. And likewise contributing packages delivered as open source, ofc I am happy with that.

I just do not like watching products, like Google search, lose out on services, not b/c of traditional ads but rather the newer style of ads in the form of SEO, i.e. not "ads" so much as "misinformation", which Google made far too easy to game the system with as compared to the previous incarnation, where it was based more on "reputation" e.g. linking to & from other sites. Though similar to ads in that it is a way for companies to promote themselves, jumping straight to the front of the line rather than play "fair".

Nowadays you can zoom in on Google maps and not see the store you are looking for until you are practically on top of it or manage to click it directly - instead Google prioritizes what it wants to show you, based on who ponies up what amount of dough to Google, rather than what you as the customer want to see.

And as for AI, it simply was not ready. It was itself an advertisement to executives from people trying to sell it before having made a viable product yet. Thus I am not surprised that they lost billions due to mismanagement of this highly interesting and promising field, that will eventually offer everyone a great deal, one day.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 9 months ago (1 children)

“AI Winter is coming”

-Ned Stark

[–] [email protected] 21 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I’ll never forgive D&D for what they did to that show. It was omnipresent in public consciousness for like a decade, and they fucked the last couple seasons so badly it’s now all but forgotten. It’s almost impressive in a depressing kind of way.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 months ago (3 children)

I was a huge fan. Watched it from season one on. Even had a House Stark banner. Now I don’t even think about it unless I see it mentioned on social media. Married with Children and Aqua Teen Hunger Force spontaneously pop into my mind 10 times more often than Game of Thrones.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 8 points 9 months ago

The term "artificial intelligence" has been in use in this field for a very long time now, applying to a broad range of techniques. Some of them much, much more primitive than the LLMs and such that are revolutionizing the field currently. There is nothing wrong with using AI to refer to them.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 7 points 9 months ago (2 children)

no, it's quite literally AI. It's a research field in IT that is quite old.

Or are you ranting for years already that the AI that computer games use is also not really AI? Because they do that for decades as well.

People like you are really starting to be a problem, as they water down the discussion of real problems this topic has by blabbering on about "iTs nOt ReAl Ai". Stop it. It's not productive. Concentrate on the real problems instead of doing armchair bullshit like this

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

ChatGPT says:

Investing in AI, like any other sector, carries risks that could potentially lead to financial challenges or even bankruptcy for companies. Some factors include:

  1. High Initial Costs: Developing AI technologies often requires significant upfront investments in research, development, and infrastructure. If these costs are not managed well or if the technology doesn't gain traction, it can strain a company's financial resources.

  2. Market Uncertainty: The AI market is rapidly evolving, and success depends on staying ahead of technological advancements. If a company fails to adapt or faces competition with superior innovations, it may struggle to maintain market relevance.

  3. Regulatory Challenges: The AI industry is subject to evolving regulations, and changes in legal frameworks can impact operations. Non-compliance or unexpected regulatory hurdles can lead to financial setbacks.

  4. Cybersecurity Risks: As AI systems become more integrated into various sectors, the risk of cyber threats increases. A significant cybersecurity breach could result in financial losses, reputational damage, and legal consequences.

  5. Limited Adoption: If the adoption of AI technologies is slower than anticipated, companies heavily invested in AI may struggle to generate expected returns on their investments, potentially leading to financial distress.

It's important to note that while AI presents significant opportunities, prudent management, market understanding, and strategic planning are crucial to mitigate risks associated with investing in this dynamic and evolving field.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 9 months ago (1 children)

The irony of using ChatGPT for this of all articles.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago

Yeah, just goes to show that the AI hype may be peaking, it's not going away.

[–] [email protected] 163 points 9 months ago (11 children)

Thank god the bubbles finally starting to burst. I am tired of hearing about ‘AI’.

[–] [email protected] 39 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (6 children)

You're not going to stop hearing about AI. Perhaps AI companies won't be so high-profile, but AI itself is being integrated into lots of things and it's not going to go away. The only thing that's happened here is that it's proving to be not quite so profitable as expected being an AI-specific company.

Edit: Perhaps not even that, the article appears to be neglecting to mention that this is part of a trend across the whole stock market rather than something AI-specific.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Nobody thinks generative ai will die, but when the bubble bursts maybe we wont get it shoehorned into places it really doesn't belong.

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[–] [email protected] 74 points 9 months ago (3 children)

Right??? I swear every damn app is trying to shoehorn in some sort of AI nonsense just to hop on the bandwagon.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


Following disappointing quarterly earnings results by Microsoft and Google owner Alphabet, Reuters reports that AI-related companies lost a whopping $190 billion in stock market value.

Microsoft may have eked out a win, with the promise of AI services convincing investors, but even its stock dropped by 0.7 percent in extended trade, per the report.

Google's parent company fared much worse, dropping 5.6 percent after missing ad revenue expectations.

Microsoft beat Apple by becoming a $3 trillion company earlier this month, a massive vote of confidence for its doubling down on the tech.

According to Deutsche Bank strategist Jim Reid, the downturn may be "signaling some overextension of the recent strong rally," according to a note seen by Yahoo Finance.

"This knee-jerk reaction [to tech results] is noise, the AI revolution has started," Wedbush analyst Dan Ives told Yahoo Finance.


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