20% of the worlds prison population : memes

[+] [email protected] -34 points 1 week ago (16 children)

I'm not saying the US isn't shit with for profit prisons, but I'm not believing shit for any number that China provides on pretty much anything.

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[–] [email protected] 48 points 1 week ago (1 children)

UHHH THATS JUST BECAUSE CHINA IS LYING HAHAA YOU REALLY BELIEVE THEIR OWN NUMBERS LOL??? oh third parties provided that data…. UHH WELL THEY DONT HAVE IPHONES AND THEYRE ALL POOR. oh… wait, they do have iphones now and china has a stronger middle working class than the US and canada?

hold on i need to go watch my tv for a couple hours to get a few more talking points but im gonna come back to this post and fucking own you

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[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 week ago

One is labeled as authoritarian dystopia while the other as a beacon of freedom, it's like we live in the upside down.

[–] [email protected] 118 points 1 week ago (9 children)

World Incarceration Rates If Every U.S. State Were A Country

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

Isn't that graph a bit misleading

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

How is a per-capita incarceration rate, with a reference to the superset included directly on the plot, misleading? Other than including more than El Salvador for the sake of external reference, which is almost certainly a size issue.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago (7 children)

I thought the states were being compared to other countries. Didn't look properly on the phone.

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 week ago (1 children)

In what way is it misleading? It seems straightforward to me.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 week ago (13 children)

I thought the states were being compared to other countries. Didn't look properly on the phone.

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[+] [email protected] -11 points 1 week ago (4 children)

The rest are in undeclared labor camps

Goes for both

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 week ago

So the US is still on top 👍

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Source: The US propaganda you received and believe uncritically.

What's next, you explaining their inherent need to lie because of their race?

[–] [email protected] 55 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The rest are in undeclared labor camps

Goes for both

US labor camps are not undeclared (though extraterritorial black sites are). They’re called prisons, and the labor is slave labor, thanks to the 13th amendment.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago (2 children)

The previous user is a bit off base with the labor camps idea (not to say that the Xinjiang detention camps for Uyghurs aren't widely known), but it is worth noting that China does utilize administrative detentions/行政拘留 for smaller offenses which are kept statistically separate from prison counts.

If Raiden needs a source, the law covering administrative detentions can be reviewed here:

https://www.gov.cn/xinwen/2021-01/23/content_5582030.htm

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 week ago (2 children)

but it is worth noting that China does utilize administrative detention

Isn't that the same as Jails in the US which is separate from prison statistics?

Jail is where you go for the night when arrested for disorderly conduct and are released the next day.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Jail is usually for holding during due process and for sentences up to a year. Prison is generally for sentences longer than a year.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago (5 children)

Administrative detentions can be longer. On paper they can hold you about a month, but it can be longer than that with a judge's signoff if they have proof of a crime.

This is typically where the police try to get you to confess to something and drag it out as long and uncomfortably as possible until you do, after which you either get to go free (though you end up on a list for a long time) or you may go to a "black jail"/黑監獄 which is a sort of under-the-table prison.

The terms of release can also sometimes require completion of a rehabilitation program, which is often the voluntary alternative to prison, or getting transferred to a short stay detention center for a few months to perform community service.

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