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Meta: Can we talk about non "Apple Enthusiasts" dominating the threads on c/apple_enthusiasts? (lemmy.world)

submitted 11 months ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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Since a lot of folks sort by “all” on Lemmy, popular posts get overwhelmed by people who don’t daily drive operating systems like iOS or MacOS.

I like outside perspectives and all, but when the majority of the “community” discussion is coming from people who aren’t even using these products, it is pretty hard to have informed conversations.

Moreover, I feel like this type of engagement creates a lot of threads that get pretty combative and catty. They’re often started by people who are trying to argue and convince iOS / MacOS users that they’ve picked the wrong side of the fence.

Anyone else feel me on this? I imagine this is a problem for other communities on Lemmy as well.

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 11 months ago (1 children)

You guys have my sympathy. I'm a pretty strong critic of Apple and their products but I'd never go out of my way to interfere with communities of Apple users. That's just kinda pathetic.

Unfortunately, I don't see that there's much you can do about this apart from strictly moderate the comments section and just try to ignore the up/downvote discrepancies.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, I think the real solution would be to require a subscription, or a subscription for at least n amount of days before you can comment. Reddit used to have options for that.

Anyone can still join in, but it cuts down on the noise from c/all.

Unfortunately, Lemmy’s community and mod tools are truly terrible.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Yea, with the lack of mod tools here you don't have that many options really.

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[–] [email protected] 59 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Some of Apple’s biggest fans are also sometimes Apple’s largest critics. I’m all for critical discussions, but the “herp derp finally getting what Android have for years” kind of comments are certainly getting old, and I wouldn’t mind seeing less of.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 11 months ago (5 children)

Agreed, but I will say that it’s pretty clear that a lot of these upvoted threads are from people who don’t use the operating systems very much, if at all.

For example, I frequently see highly upvoted threads with people complaining about something missing from iOS or MacOS, and in reality, that has actually been prominent in the OS for half a decade a more.

A lot of people literally don’t have very much familiarity with what they’re commenting or voting on. They’re just letting confirmation bias take the wheel.

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[+] [email protected] 10 points 11 months ago (7 children)

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 11 months ago

Yeah, i used to think this wasn't the case when i just joined here, but the longer i use the more frustrating it get. People downvote and brigade on seemingly harmless thing, from post that they don't understand, to language they don't speak, to technology they don't use, to idea(that doesn't involve extremism) they don't agree. There's been people telling me why they stop posting and developing the community in my instance, and all boils down to the random downvoting and brigading.

If the admin of the top 10 instance didn't turn off downvoting, then you can be sure that this platform will slowly die off before Reddit even got its own just desert. It's impossible to build a community and recommend friend for a place this hostile. This place used to be super wholesome when i join.

[–] [email protected] -5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

What do you mean my lurking? You posted 5 times today and apart from a 2 week break you took (vacation?) you at least post daily and amassed 600+ comments in 10 Month.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

There's no point in trying to build a community with a very hostile environment for anything that doesn't align with the very odd hostile-against-everything-not-OSS zeitgeist.

Wait until they come to correct you by saying that’s not true, they’re actually hostile-against-everything-not-FOSS, how the F is very important, and why certain licensing standards are better than others. And any time anyone tries to call out deficiencies in their favorite FOSS, they’d be greeted with swarms of “you don’t understand FOSS” comments and have no room for any constructive discussion. Then, to top it off, they’d always default to the “why don’t you just go find your own instance instead” comment. It’s almost as if they don’t want a community for discussions, they want echo chambers, and they’ll be hostile and unwelcoming to everyone who’s not aligned with their believes.

Edit: oh, look, we have the go fund your own instance comment in this thread already! Called it.

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