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Hexbearian jerking themselves off about how valuable they are to the rest of the fediverse, suggests "performing a coup" (media.kbin.social)
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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I appreciate the fuck out of Hexbear. Over the past few years I've seen a massive ideological shift in a bunch of communities I use to enjoy. Like feminist communities shifted from egalitarian/humanist perspectives towards more bigioted attitudes, people stopped caring about confronting their own biases, and instead try to justify them, because "the patriarchy". I've encountered these people in real life. I once got in an argument with another nonbinary with them telling me "You need to understand the world sees you as a white male".

I see people getting called white supremace for calling out racism.

Sorry I know this is a ramble, still processing.

Anyways, now that I see the fingerprints of Marxism I can just call it out.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

I think this is a side effect of social media algorithms as a whole. It pushes people into more extreme views of content/ideoligies that they already have, potentially pushing them to a point they wouldn't have chosen.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

Lmfao. SJW is just as sensitive as Lemmy.world apparently

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You have to appreciate the irony of forcing people to be communist, or else. Literally doing the thing they are denying.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

That's not ironic. They're authoritarians. I very much doubt that they're against forcing people to be collectivists.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

Honestly I'm pretty sure the coup part happened on reddit. I feel like I witnessed multiple subs get taken over by tankies.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It's weird how they can't seem to realize they're literally, exactly the same as trumpers. They're just tanky Qanon. It'd be funny if it wasn't so sad.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Meanwhile in my Lemmy app....

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

ahaha, god that's so pathetic

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

If they think they’re having any real effect on anything then they majorly need to touch some grass.

This is the reality of their “dunking on user bases”

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There's plenty of correct ways to criticize them, you don't need to resort to ableist slurs my dude. We can be better than that.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I'm autistic, and I don't need you to be offended for my sake.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

im autistic and i would rather we do not use ableist slurs

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What would you suggest instead? The word idiot? That has connotations for the intellectually disabled. Stupid? Same thing.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

i prefer vague connotations over explicit slurs that folks actually register as kicking down on disabled folks

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's very possible to offer constructive criticism without having been offended.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Absolutely!

but in this case, I don't see the use of retard offensive. If it was directed at people with actual learning disabilities, then yeah, definitely.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You don't really want to encourage the idea that disabled = bad, and you can use it as an insult. It's still racist to insult a white person with the n-word, because even if it's not offensive to them, it carries on the cultural attitude that black people are inferior. The idea is to foster a culture that is inclusive to disabled people.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Are you disabled? Since if you're not, you're not in a position to be lecturing if disabilities are good or bad.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It's subjective of course. Some people choose to believe that disabilities are bad, and can be used as an insult.

I choose to believe that abled and disabled people are equal, that belief is a core tenent of my value system, and I will lecture on it regardless of how it makes you feel.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The irony is that if they were merely antifascists that were dunking on racists and transphobes, a lot of people would genuinely appreciate them. The tankie brain-rot ruins that though.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

"You were the chosen one! It was said that you would destroy the fascists, not join them!"

Although, tbf, I think I'd still be somewhat annoyed at Hexbear style discourse even if it was oriented towards a good cause. Much less annoyed, of course, but "I know you are but what am I?", Sea Lioning, Gish Galloping, and images of pigs pooping on their own balls are not great for the tone of any community.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

Let's face it, these people are run-of-the mill internet trolls who are working with a politics angle. Their only cause is distruption of online communities for shits and giggles. Treat them like any other troll - block on user level, defederate on instance level.