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[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

I rather they lie than you know, rape.

[–] [email protected] -4 points 7 months ago

People are actually dying from this conflict and the first thing you guys do is argue behind your fucking keyboards about two shitty publications and a fake story?

[–] [email protected] -5 points 7 months ago (1 children)

You're using the IDF think-piece of the fucking JERUSALEM POST to "debunk" their claims?

Libs will do anything in the fucking world to avoid saying they're the bad guys in an engagement.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

You think the Jerusalem Post is automatically a mouthpiece of the IDF, just because it's based on Jerusalem? How does that make any sense?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Ohh let's see the outrage from Lemmy leftists in the comments about this:

[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

I commented something like this on a post about Hamas rapes in Israel, but it got removed for "defending genocide" or something:

Here's the thing about rape in war... it almost always happens. You'd be hard-pressed to find a war that doesn't involve mass rapes by both sides. Maybe this one was fabricated, but it is happening. One woman fabricating her story doesn't mean it isn't happening. It's a perennial problem.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago
[–] [email protected] 9 points 7 months ago

The woman who spoke about rape justified her exaggeration and incorrect talk by saying that the goal was to arouse the nation’s fervor and brotherhood,” adding critically that “As if more than thirty thousand martyrs, ninety thousand wounded, about a million displaced people, and comprehensive destruction were not enough!”

People in Gaza exaggerating and lying to the media to gain false sympathy?

Well I never!

[–] [email protected] 67 points 7 months ago (6 children)

I'm a bit disappointed with the hypocrisy of some commenters here.

So many very questionable articles, posts and statements that can't be verified regarding IDF crimes get treated as the absolute truth. Yet a statement regarding a fake story, verified by Hamas and Al Jazeera, gets reported and isn't trustworthy, since it's from an institution aligned with Israel?

Holy echo chamber, batman.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago

I don't know. These plenty of weaponized information going both ways. Articles like this do it best because of the gotcha manner, enraging people. This article seems to be pretty successful in that manner.

The one big hypocrisy is that there's clearly one side that bans reporters from entering the area. Therefore obscuring the unbiased news gathering. This leads to mud flinging and biased reporting on both sides, inflaming the readership.

We're being played, threads like this are a battlefield. Are you confident enough that you're not the baddies?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Could someone first post the Al Jazeera article instead?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago

Al Jazeera removed a video from an article after the woman's allegations were debunked.

Archive Haaretz source

[–] [email protected] 21 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children)

Yeah I just stopped taking any comments on the fediverse on this topic seriously. People on here are often the extreme left or right it seems. And to have any nuisance gets you yelled at by both.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

Which makes tye problem worse. For many people, the default reaction to strong resistance is to double down in one's own beliefs.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago (1 children)

mostly extreme left but you are also right there are extreme right views.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

To me it demonstrated what I was already suspecting, that the far left is just as susceptible to misinformation as the far right. They usually have good intentions (apart from tankies), unlike people on the far right, but they are just as easily misled and painfully unaware of it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

i think at this point the term useful idiot can aptly describe the far left,good intented but some how causing more harm than good.

Don't get me wrong,the far right is also the same,only i consider the far right crazy to begin with and there are also useful idiots there but just more pronounced in the far left.

[–] [email protected] -5 points 7 months ago

A lot of Israel crimes are documented by videos, it doesn't mean that there is no fake news to make Israel looks even words. Pro israel do the same thing they believe everything IDF says with no proof.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 7 months ago

To say that I am disappointed would imply having had expectations, and I've long since stopped having those here.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Stop allowing Jerusalem Post on this community. They are aligned to Israel and cannot be trusted any more than the daily wire.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

They are a quality independent publication, unlike Al-Jazeera. You just don't like it, because it's from the "wrong" country.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago (3 children)

What a trash article. So when a single woman lies to a newspaper, that makes it entirely bad? Al-Jazeera is a Qatari mouthpiece?

That's right coming from an apartheid enabling, mouthpiece of their country's theocratic fascist leader that publishes lies all the fucking time.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)
[–] [email protected] -1 points 7 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Whoever says the contrary will wake up suicided by 19 shots in the back of their head... allegedly

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (4 children)

The point is that Palestine has a history of exaggerating and straight-up lying about Israel's "atrocities" in an attempt to control its own population. All the way from 1948.

JPost could be slanted, but so was the Al-Jazeera article. Should we also ban all articles from them? Also The Guardian reports only pro-Palestinian stances. Should they be banned?

Or perhaps should we accept that news papers have positions.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

And Israel doesn't exaggerate? C'mon man. They'll find whatever excuse they want to arrest, torture and kill not only Palestinians, but Lebanese people too.

[–] [email protected] -5 points 7 months ago (1 children)

No one in their right mind would have a pro-israel stance anyway, you cant exaggerate israels atrocities because they literally are and have been committing a genocide since 1948, right in front of our eyes, it can’t get much worse than that

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

No one in their right mind, except the diplomatic and intelligence corps of the western world. Plenty of reasonable people who know a lot more about this than you don't share your opinion. Don't shoot the messenger.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children)

JPost could be slanted, but so was the Al-Jazeera article. Should we also ban all articles from them? Also The Guardian reports only pro-Palestinian stances. Should they be banned?

yes. no one need biased stories.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 7 months ago

Yes, let's ban everything this guy doesn't agree with.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

Well, at least you're consistent.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I am still surprised as to why Jpost is still being allowed here

[–] [email protected] -4 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Agreed. reported too.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


Al Jazeera columnist and former director Yasser Abuhilalah also tweeted, admitting that, “It was revealed through Hamas investigations that the story of the rape of women in Al-Shifa Hospital was fabricated… The woman who spoke about rape justified her exaggeration and incorrect talk by saying that the goal was to arouse the nation’s fervor and brotherhood,” adding critically that “As if more than thirty thousand martyrs, ninety thousand wounded, about a million displaced people, and comprehensive destruction were not enough!”

The original story published by Al Jazeera featured a “testimony” by Jamila Al-Hessi, a Gazan woman who claimed that while she was under siege in the area of the hospital complex, she witnessed IDF soldiers “raping women then killing them and burning entire families alive.”

The fake testimony went viral, with many expressing their rage at Israel and at what they deemed Arab failure to protect the honor of Palestinian women, even asking where Hamas and the resistance had gone.

However, Israeli news blogger Abu Ali Express also reported that the viral fake testimony also had unexpected reverse ripple effects, leading many Gazans to flee their homes in the northern Gaza strip southwards, which may explain the unusual event of a Hamas investigation into the details.

Al Jazeera was founded with the financial help of the Qatari royal family and has served for decades as a mouthpiece for the regime, which provides lavish asylum for the leaders of Hamas, a group designated as a terror organization by the US, Canada, the EU, Israel, and other nations.

Foreign Minister Israel Katz responded to the report, writing on X: "Look surprised, the Palestinians fabricate stories of rape to incite antisemitism.


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