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    [–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

    X.org will die when the last person stops using it 🀷 To each their own.

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    [–] [email protected] 12 points 7 months ago

    Most of the issues people have mentioned with either only seem to exist on specific distros or only for a small number of people with weird configurations.

    Also everyone says Nvidia and Wayland is bad but Nvidia on x was garbage last time I had an Nvidia card too. Among other issues, the GPU control panel was such a hot steaming point of sale and wouldn't save configs.

    [–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

    Xorg go Brr rrr rrr

    [–] [email protected] 7 points 7 months ago (2 children)

    I have a small script to toggle the visibility of a window when I press a hotkey. Press once, it launches the app if it's not running, or unhides and raises the window if it is. Press again, it hides the window.

    My distro recently switched KDE to Plasma 6 on Wayland, and of course the script stopped working. Researched how to make a Wayland equivalent. You can't. It's literally impossible to hide (or even minimize) windows from the command line.

    [–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

    Untested partial solution that you may already have tried:

    1. In the window manager's keyboard settings, create keybinds for raising and lowering windows.

    2. Create a script that uses dotool, a third party tool which can send keyboard events and mouse movements, to call the previously configured keybinds.

    3. Missing bit: Figuring out whether the window is raised or lowered to know which keybind to send.

    The author of dotool says that they wrote it because ydotool (the alleged successor to xdotool, I assume), needs root and a background daemon. That said, the linked page seems to indicate that dotool also needs some permissions.

    I'm not affiliated with either.

    [–] [email protected] 11 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

    The compositor will have to implement a CLI. Sway has an IPC socket and CLI just like i3 and I can use this to hide windows.

    [–] [email protected] 11 points 7 months ago

    I love Wayland but I don’t love half my apps rendering as blurry when using my HiDPI screen. Wayland treating me good so far. I wanted to ride the poo poo on xorg train cause of Wayland’s snappiness and being modern but functionality is everything.

    [–] [email protected] 30 points 7 months ago

    Jesys. Way to butcher a meme template.

    [–] [email protected] 50 points 7 months ago (1 children)

    Wayland is maintained by the same people who made X.org. If you like X.org maybe you could volunteer your time to do maintenance on it. No one wants to touch a dead codebase.

    [–] [email protected] -2 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children)

    Yeah, but they obviously missed a few key features of X.org.

    [–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

    Like what? A broken protocol from 70 years ago?

    [–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

    Not exactly 70, but still, it does have features that Wayland still lacks.

    [–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

    Name one from the top of your head.

    [–] [email protected] -1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

    Screen color calibration, no nvidia support (not their fault, but that doesn't solve the problem, does it), HDR (KDE has it in beta, but no one else does)...

    I'm sorry, it's an unfinished product (unlike, let's say PipeWire, which is why it was quickly addopted). X.org devs went 180 regarding development of Wayland vs X.org. It had a bad foundation to begin with, not enough supported protocols... everything after that is just patching the obvious.

    They should have ditched Wayland 15 years ago and start from scratch when they saw how poor the standard was regarding protocols. If X.org was too big and heavy, Wayland went in the complete opposite direction. A middle ground should have been made, and adoption would have been quicker and more stable.

    [–] [email protected] 13 points 7 months ago (1 children)

    They're still working on it, and if it's been a while since you last checked they may have already implemented the ones you wanted.

    [–] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago

    Hm... OK will check πŸ‘.

    [–] [email protected] 10 points 7 months ago

    meanwhile me: wayland goes brrrr cause of ootb touchpad gestures on GNOME

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