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Q: Are the airstrikes in Yemen working?
Biden: Well, when you say "working". Are they stopping the Houthis? No. Are they going to continue? Yes.
Typical US anti-terrorism policy
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Man tankies just really infest the fediverse. I wish reality was as simple as they like to pretend it is.
Saying that you support the Houthis in their efforts to stop genocide does not mean you agree with everything they stand for.
You don't have to unequivocally support a group to encorse one specific action.
Attacking civilian ships with civilian crews does nothing to stop genocide; it's just terrorism.
Maersk said both vessels carried cargo belonging to the U.S. Defense and State Departments, as well as other government agencies, meaning they were “afforded the protection of the U.S. Navy for passage through the strait.”
Don't fall for propaganda like a dumbass. These two ships were carrying DOD cargo.
You're telling me military action doesn't stop terrorism?? 
It doesn't prevent terrorism, but where the hits land it does usually stop whatever is going on.
In the very short term yeah, but in the longer term it INCREASES terrorism by making it easier for terrorists to radicalize people who lost loved ones.
Buddy, we got enough bombs here to light up every one of these Houthis.
Not without killing a shitload of innocent civilians, which is THE most effective way to create MORE terrorism.
What’s the current civilian death count with these strikes? Like average
I do think this is a strategic miss step from the Hooti Bros. Attacking global trade is the fast track to be on the wrong end of universally approved military actions .
…and I have a horrible feeling Iran might just be about to order in some Freedom & Democracy . US and UK are in election cycles, and tough looking leaders win votes .
Maersk said both vessels carried cargo belonging to the U.S. Defense and State Departments, as well as other government agencies, meaning they were “afforded the protection of the U.S. Navy for passage through the strait.”
Darn Hoothi's standing up to Genocide.
America isn't starting more wars because they can't afford it, not because they're so nice. The Hoothies can blow up Saudi's oil infrastructure which is going to make this global shipping blockade look like a complete joke in comparison.
Ukraine and israel are draining the budget. If America starts escalating the middle east they won't be able to keep their aircraft carriers next to Taiwan. Fighting one war at a time is easy but it's starting to stack up.
Middle Eastern issues never seem to get solved with more violence. The freedom and democracy barrage is just going to backfire as it always has.
lol Ukraine is a bargain. I think the US has spent maybe 2% of the entire military budget supplying Ukraine with weapons. In exchange we get to see the last large generation of Russians turned into fertilizer along with all of their frontline hardware.
Israel is perfectly capable of turning the Gaza Strip into a moonscape without much support from the US.
The US hasn’t even touched the hardware needed to take on China (long range missiles and aircraft). On top of that we now have a west that is more united than ever behind the American Hegemony.
I think the US can afford to let a few off the chain and rain some good old fashioned freedom on a few Houthis.
You're talking like Goku is stronger than One Punch Man because he can go SSJ9001. War isn't some attack power meter where the party with more attack power just magically wins. Tell me how more about how America just won against the Taliban.
Israel's iron meme system got wrecked by a bunch of Hamas fireworks. Their wall penetrated like it's nothing. Just like how israel can flatten Gaza, Hezbollah can flatten israel. Everyone can flatten each other these days. Rockets and Drones are insanely cheap and stopping them is expensive.
The question is if you think that's a good solution to the problem. From behind your keyboard it must look really funny.
Good points each of them, and it’s why I wonder if the US might move to conclude some of them, rather than have them nagging on .
America is probably going to drop and screw over Ukraine if the budget gets tight. But the Hoothi problem looks unsolvable with military force. Saudi tried that for quite a while with American weapons. And America just lost to the Taliban trying to do the same thing.
By for the easiest solution is to reign in Netanyahu and stop the Genocide in Gaza. Hoothi demands are what I would call "normal to anyone that isn't a genocidal maniac".
Was about to say the same thing.
Unless they want to keep grinding Putin by proxy, Big Z might be not be getting his calls returned.
So instead of fucking off, they're still fucking around. Well, there's plenty of Find Out to go around.
Oh wait, I thought your comment was about American cargo ships. I'm like "fuck yeah! That's punk rock, they should respect the protest (mostly cause the protest comes with missiles) and go around. Never cross a pocket line, bruv" but I think I misread the situation.
Yeah because more military action is going to stop terrorism! Have people learned NOTHING from the Bush administration and the wars they started??
You do realize that Americans get boners from this, right? Americans LOVE getting attacked so they can use their billions of dollars worth of weapons that they've been hoarding. Then resell it.
Some do, yeah. Doesn't mean I'm not going to point out the futility of it.
What's the play to stop this then?
Not support Israel's genocide. I'd wager that'd help.
Sure, agreed, probably. I don't believe one atrocity justifies another though (like the holocaust doesn't justify... Literally anything they've used it as justification for), and the problem is the houthis aren't just fucking with US and Israeli related ships, they're impacting global trade.
Backing down in the face of violence (even if it is the correct thing to do in this particular situation) only empowers them to cause more violence because it works. That's why the US doesn't (typically) negotiate with terrorists.
Yeah I'm not saying the Houthis are right here (they're being too indiscriminate), but giving into their demands is objectively the morally correct action. They're using a wrong method to make a correct point.
And even if you're a ghoul and think that complying with that very reasonable demand wouldn't stop the Houthis, why not call their bluff? It costs us nothing to simply stop allowing the genocide to happen, and if the Houthis continue attacking ships, then you have a much more legitimate reason to go after them.
Or are the people that are in favor of bombing Yemen just really eager to bomb?
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You really don’t know what you’re talking about when it comes to policy. It’s not just a simple “okay let’s cut ties with Israel”.
Calling for a cease fire isn't "cutting ties with Israel", and if you think that funding a genocidal ethnostate is a necessary part of foreign policy, your foreign policy would have been very helpful for the Axis Powers, you absolute monster.
The Saudis have been bombing it for Allah knows how long, so it's business as usual for everyone involved.
"Violence is being done to this group at such an alarming rate that it's being treated as normal. So violence is fine, they're used to it"
That's what that sounded like to me.
Woosh?
Yeah, that was already pointed out.
I was asking because I couldn’t tell if your comment was sarcastic or not.
I was trying to figure out if I was getting whooshed. lol
That's neither here, nor there. The answer isn't to make the bombing in Yemen worse.
If the only demand is to stop genociding Palestinians, then the US government should simply stop supporting Israel in their genocide.
If the Houthis continue attacking ships after that, then by all means, do what you need to do to handle the Houthis. But the US government can't even be bothered to call for a ceasefire, so they leave it up to militant groups to act.
I don't know. I don't have to in order to recognize the fact that military action only exacerbates the problem by making it easier to radicalize the people whose loved ones are killed, though.