Critical thinking is an endangered practice.
this post was submitted on 25 Jun 2025
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We've got a community on mastodon called monsterdon that watches bad movies for fun. Just search the hashtag, main event is Sunday nights but there's some spinoffs.
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To have no opinion other than gratefulness is... Concerning.
It's pretty easy. There are bad movies, like Star Wars: The Last Jedi and most Marvel movies. Then, there are good movies like Waterworld, Demolition Man, and Battlefield Earth.
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Me enjoying a movie does in no way exclude it from being a bad movie.
Seeing as I do enjoy watching bad movies. Terrible acting, bad cuts, awful dialog. I love it.
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Hey, one of my cringe memories that randomly pops up when I try to go to sleep!
"So what did you think, pretty good right?"
"Ahahah what??? No, it was shit!"
It was Wild Things, feel free to confirm that it was indeed shit.
Prime Neve Campbell and Denise Richard’s topless.
It was objectively great.
Unless, for some reason, you don’t like boobs.
Also, if memory serves its actually a modernized version of Shakespeare or someone like that, so there's a hilariously high brow joke of "yeah, people thought his plays were trashy when they first came out too" thing going on with that one, but you don't actually need to get that to be entertained by it
e; I misremembered so I'll just quote the wiki page
Literary scholar John Thorburn notes that Wild Things is loosely based on several figures in Greek tragedies, namely Medea, whom he describes the character of Suzie as a "modern-day version of."[5] He also notes that Kelly functions as a Phaedra-like figure, while Sam exemplifies both Jason and Hippolytus.[6] Thorburn suggests that the film's "most under-appreciated element is screenwriter Stephen Peters’s obvious debt to classical mythology, tragedy and, especially, two Euripidean plays, Medea (431 BC) and Hippolytus (428 BC).[7] Suzie is met by police, Duquette and Perez, while reading Death on the Installment Plan.
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Good movies are self-aware. Not everything needs to be a masterpiece of acting and cinematography, or have the best effects, or the best writing. But they have to know what they are. I don't mean breaking the fourth wall or self-deprecating humor. More like understanding their limits.
The people making Sharknado knew they were doing a campy action film (series) with sharks in tornadoes. Fun Movie. Would watch again.
M. Night Shyamalan is a great writer and director, but a lot of his films have a feeling of over-dramatized self-importance, where it seems like he really wants you to know how clever he is. So they get panned.
Chrisopher Nolan (I think) puts similar importance on symbols and archetypes with a dramatic and artistic style, but his movies have a feel of like "I don't give a shit if you get it, just enjoy the ride." He makes good films.
Zak Snyder makes AMAZING visuals and set pieces.
He can kinda string together the main bits of a plot, but the dude can’t write to save his life.
Rebel Moon had the ingredients for a decent 7 samurai sci-fi thing. But holy fuck did he go so far style over substance with it that all the substance was left out 😆
Same with JJ Abrams, dude makes good visuals and can start a mystery box plot like very few can.
But for the love of all that’s holy, don’t let him decide what’s in the box.
Zak Snyder makes AMAZING visuals and set pieces.
I have never been able to set the brightness high enough to see them though.
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The Room is considered a movie so bad it's good, but if it turned out that Tommy knew what he was doing the whole time, would that make it just a good movie?
No, I don't think so. Whether it happened by accident or on purpose is a different measure, but the end result is the same, a movie that is so lacking in qualities that would normally be associated with a "good" movie that it is remarkable. I have heard of plenty of people that don't like it when movie makers intentionally try to make a movie that is "so bad it's good", but I've never heard anyone accuse those movies of being regular old "good".
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I'm the exact opposite. I struggle to get through 90% of movies regardless of how good people think they are, especially since they only keep getting longer and longer.
Hell, the only movies I can get through are the ones that are so bad they're actually interesting
Congrats, you’re sane. Most entertainment media is objectively bad. That’s just statistically undeniable. Unless you think everyone is a good writer and storyteller.
Just want to let you know that I enjoyed watching your edits update in real time
Also there's something to be said for taste. Some people just want action and flashing lights, an exciting distraction from life. Other people (I include myself) want interesting and well-written stories that make you feel and think. Part of the problem is that major production studios don't want to take a risk on a new kind of story or writing style and keep pushing out whatever formula they've recently seen get sales. Marvel is a prime example. Almost every movie feels exactly the same, except a few characters and personalities change.
I haven't watched a movie in months. I think it's just not for everyone.
I think a lot of movies fall into that category tbh it takes a lot of qualities to stack up for the movie to be bad or good and most fall somewhere in the middle
This is why I hardly ever recommend movies.
My criteria pretty much boils down to "did it hold my attention" during the runtime?"
A "good" movie holds my attention An "ok" movie doesn't hold my atttention 100% A "bad" movie 'pushes' my attention away
By that metric, 2001 is an "atrocious" movie. 🥴
Being I watch plenty of bad movies I have sorta the reverse. 90% of the time im like, did I just waste two hours of my life.
so its sorta funny but I feel this comic applies to my reply on this. https://www.smbc-comics.com/comics/1673201256-20230108.png
Huh. 90% of the time I'm like "this is a bad movie"
Watch both Judge Dress films to understand the difference between a good film and a bad one.
Judge Dress
I want crossover movie with Judge Dress and Miss Congeniality.
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And they're both tremendously enjoyable.