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I mean hey, if you have low standards, and you're completely honest about it, nothing wrong with that... and it also puts the onus on the people with higher standards to actually explain why they do or do not like any given movie, easier to suss out the people who don't actually have consistent standards, but instead just have an amalgamation of their favorite influencers opinions.

Win win win as I see it. I'm a bit of a movie snob, and I can explain why I do or don't like a movie...

But I am also self-aware enough to realize that other people have other standards, and 90% of the time, if there isn't some utterly reprehnsible trope or caricature or very very misleading depiction of real events in a 'based on a true story' type thing... eh, whatever, we have different tastes, wanna get pizza?

This is more an arthouse thing for me, as if the story becomes completely incoherent I just assume it’s expressionism and I’m being challenged.

i can enjoy a movie i think is objectively bad and vice versa.

Enjoying a movie, having fun watching it, is not an indication of its quality. It is acceptable to enjoy bad movies, nothing wrong with that, I've watched plenty of movies I consider as bad but still had fun and a nice time watching them.

Defining the quality of a movie by the enjoyment you had is like defining the quality of a painting by how realistic it is. A painting might be good even if it is surreal, unrealistic or abstract, and a realistic painting might be crap, so the quality of the painting is not tied to simply how realistic it is. The same way there are movies that are fun and enjoyable but not "good", and there are movies that bore most people and are a master piece.

While with a painting defining the quality is simpler (simpler yes, but not simple) as it is the creation of one person normally, for movies it gets incredibly complex as there's so much to measure and its the work of so many people; the script, the acting, the photography, the score, the directing, the stunts, makeup and dressing, FX, ... There's a lot that can be good and a lot that can be bad in the same movie.

At least that has always been my perspective, I have no issues admitting to not liking something despite how good it was, and loving something that I knew was not good. Some examples that come to mind: I love the matrix movies, love watching them, yes, in plural, that doesn't mean the second and third are good. It feels like there were too many issues in them to make them good, but I still had a good time watching them. On the other hand, I feel like a movie like 2001 is of unquestionable quality, yet I always feel somewhat bored watching it and would rather do something else.

Sounds like 10% of the time you did not have fun watching a movie. That's a bad movie.

Imo most movies are kind of bad and I usually regret watching them.

But I kinda feel like this is because I can easily think of other things I would have had more fun spending that time on. So it's a tangible loss to me.

FWIW I keep watching movies because I have seen a few that makes the pursuit worth it.

There are good movies, and then there is Popeye The Slayer Man. Nothing in between for me.

Somebody needs to introduce Thomas here to MST3K. There is no better teacher than experience.

Must be nice to be able to just completely switch off your brain like that.

This is exactly why we mainly get dogshit by people with nothing to say or any life experience.

Don't have fun = bad movie.

I think most movies are dogshit, but the bad ones are fun to riff on with my friends.

My criteria for what makes a good movie seem straight forward to me, but apparently I ask too much as shown by the vast majority of movies being frustratingly bad.

I can suspend disbelief for lore and character, but not for blatantly dumb decision making, plot holes, or forcing a story event. Entire plot lines based on simple misunderstandings ruin stories immediately for me, as do hamfisted agenda pushing, or stories hinging on "common knowledge" that's known bullshit. (Looking at whatever that movie was a few years back that started with the narrator stating we only use 10% of our brains, fuck off.)

Horror movies have their own indurating problems, which is too bad since it's my favorite genre when done well. For some reason, people always act like they're in a horror movie. Gotta check something in the basement? Better walk slow and look nervous, it's not totally unreasonable for someone to be afraid of their own fucking basement. Or the polar opposite, everything is fine no matter what, and I'm sure the several missing people are just playing a prank.

Can this problem be solved with simple communication? We better find some bullshit way to get rid of cell phones. uh, the battery died. Uh, ghosts aliens and monsters block signals. Uh the antagonists is a tech expert who jams phones. Uh, they're in the woods, there's no signal. (I've been in the woods, there's a signal.) Or they just decide to give up and base the plot in the 80s.

Lazy writing, in other words.

This took too long and I've lost interest in my rant, but I'll post it anyway.