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[–] [email protected] 12 points 4 days ago (1 children)

But think of the productivity if we had AI and a 7 day workweek! /s

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I think the plan is that a lot of people get a 0 day work week. That's one of the problems.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 4 days ago

Computerisation, the paperless office etc all were supposed to generate better quality of life for workers. It was how it was sold. The reality is that staff numbers were reduced with work and competitive pressures increasing rates of stress and depression.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 days ago

Human productivity alone warranted a 4-day workweek. With AI benefits added in, we should be going down to 3.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 4 days ago (1 children)

No, personal computers made us productive enough for a 4 day work week. We’re down to like 24 hours per week now. I think many would enjoy four 6-hour days, while others may prefer three 8-hour days. And a rare few might want to work two 12-hour shifts.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 4 days ago

I’m still waiting for self checkout, airport self service check-in, automated answer services for credit cards, and computerized healthcare systems to make food, airplane tickets, consumer goods, and healthcare less expensive.

And I feel like I’ve been waiting a while…

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 days ago

Yeah, I just graced with a glorious 0-day work week. There is no chance ANY of this “productivity” will get anywhere near workers. It’s just a new, exciting way to centralize wealth and power. And if the models get as “intelligent” as the claim they will in 5 years, then with a helping of slavery to boot, ones they are “as smart or smarter” than humans, just without pesky things like rights…

[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 days ago

2 day work week. Standard hours for a work week are just like the minimum wage. They've been stagnant for decades and haven't adjusted according to company profits and worker productivity increases.

2 days. Why would you ask for 4? That puts you in a shitty bargaining position.

[–] [email protected] 230 points 4 days ago (6 children)

We should already be on a fucking 3 day with increased pay with how much productivity has gone up, instead we're just getting ass raped harder and harder while rich assholes keep getting richer and richer with no end in sight.

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[–] [email protected] 110 points 4 days ago (4 children)

Heck. This should have happened in the 80's.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 4 days ago

It did, for a select few. Less than four days, even. You just had to be one of the finance sector aristocrats who laid claim to enough passive rents.

[–] [email protected] 77 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Instead we got trickled on.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Get ready for more. We have the golden dome coming.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 4 days ago

The forecast is sunny with a 100% chance of golden showers

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 4 days ago

They will just lay people off and have less people

[–] [email protected] 113 points 4 days ago (3 children)

“Technology is gonna work to improve us, not just the people who own the technology and the CEOs of large corporations,” Sanders said. “You are a worker, your productivity is increasing because we give you AI, right? Instead of throwing you out on the street, I’m gonna reduce your work week to 32 hours.”

0% chance this wouldn't also come with a 20% pay cut.

[–] [email protected] 43 points 4 days ago (5 children)

Sure, but that's not what's being discussed. Sanders is saying people deserve a 4 day work week at full pay.

Anyone can negotiate a 4 day work week for a 20% paycut. That's not worth public figures time to discuss.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 4 days ago

Except even with a 20% pat cut it might still be hard to get because any amount of personal time threatens your dedication to their profits.

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[–] [email protected] 66 points 4 days ago (1 children)

40% pay cut, those server farms are expensive

[–] [email protected] 37 points 4 days ago (2 children)

100% pay cut, and you better say thank you

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

A voucher for the company produced bag of rice, a place to sleep in the barracks next to the workplace and the “promise” of some definition of healthcare.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 4 days ago

120% paycut, would you not pay a few hours of work for a whole day off?

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