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I definitely consume too much dystopian content to be a fair dystopian barometer, but the sheer amount of ads being pushed my way is starting to make me feel legitimately anxious. It feels like a techno-dystopia where all of the neat and artistic elements have been extracted and then ground into dust for our corporate overlords. Even the ‘regular’ people are just trying to sell themselves. The streamers, the funny videos, the pet videos, the porn, the reposts of all of those, so much of it is just monetizing my attention.

Do ads even influence people that much? Does anyone even eat Church’s Chicken?! Do people consider switching their car insurance? I though the postmoderns were jumping the gun a little with the pictures they painted of a future with corporate logos and other advertisements spread across every visible surface, but now I have to see 5 ads and a cookie consent pop up to look up a quick definition. Watching a friend’s youtube video? 30 seconds of rapidfire ads from 15 brands. It’s starting to feel absurd. Are we going to be okay?

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (4 children)

Shout out for pihole. Never ceases to amaze me when I end up on public data sources (cellular/wifi) and my phone is littered with ads and banners that squeeze the viewable area to a thin strip of screen. It's truly toxic. However, you can set up a personal VPN at home on the Pi and get your ads scrubbed by PiHole while you're away from home.

So yes, if I may offer my list (desktop browser):

PiHole (+ personal VPN to connect to when away)

uBlock Origin

Https Everywhere (for the odd site that isn't https by default)

Facebook Container ( if you use FB)

SocialFixer for Facebook - a godsend. I use FB for work and hobby groups. FB insists on cramming "suggested for you" content in everywhere. SocialFixer will filter and block FB posts based on text, and using "suggested for you" as a filter makes Facebook great again.

Duck Duck Go privacy essentials

EFF's Privacy Badger

uBlacklist - an app that lets you block sites in search results. A little tedious, but if you stick with it eventually you end up getting rid of many those awful boilerplate SEO worthless sites.

SponsorBlock for YouTube

EDIT: Guess I didn't answer the question? I despise ads. I will do most anything I can to avoid them. The aforementioned list of blocking and privacy add-ons is proof enough of that. There's nothing that I need to buy that I don't already know I want or need. I walk away from the TV (I can't remember the last time I watched network TV. Probably the primary election?), I put my phone down, and if it's that much in my face I simply close the site if I don't absolutely have to be there.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (5 children)

I believe advertising is a major mechanism for evil in our world. It's accepted brainwashing by definition. It MUST have wide reaching consequences on psychology of people, and it also has incredible power to steer how information is disseminated.

Best example is how media never says anything negative about advertising.

"Branded" is the only movie or media I know that broaches this topic.

I use ad blockers for everything and I'm bewildered when I see TV nowadays or try to use the web or youtube without it. I very rarely see ads and refuse to be brainwashed. FreeTube is awesome too. Resist!

We need other systems, something like a global patreon subscription that is automatically shared to content creators.

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 9 months ago (1 children)

For anyone with toddlers who watch their cocomelon and the like when you just can't take it anymore - I've used yt-dlp to download some videos and just play it via plex. No ads, no tracking, no drama.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago (1 children)

There's an awesome tool I use to automate this process called TubeArchivist. Automatically downloads new videos from subscribed channels or playlists. Downloads the metadata, thumbnail, and comments too.

It has a built in viewer that works fine so I haven't tried getting the content into my Plex server, but I've seen people in the discord talking about doing it.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

I don't see any ads anymore so I'm fine. It's poison to watch that shit.

FreeTube Newpipe Torrents

[–] [email protected] 8 points 9 months ago

Are we going to be okay?

Not if we don't abolish capitalism, no.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I remember when I started hating ads.

HEAD-ON: APPLY DIRECTLY TO THE FOREHEAD

I genuinely have fond memories of some ads before this time that I'll occasionally reference, https://youtu.be/R7vNn-utP8Q for example, which I didn't remember was a chuck e cheese ad before just rewatching it, and whose pizza was objectively criminally poorly made.

And now I've essentially cut them out of my life entirely, but I'll occasionally hear them during podcasts and such and they come across as so bleak, like who the fuck are you selling this Chumba Casino thing to? Did the directors for these ads tell their VA's to sound as dried up and worn out as possible? Is that the market they're aiming for?

I think advertisement is a part of commerce that isn't going away till we get that luxury gay space communism, but it would be nice if there was some kind of panel of artists who your ad had to pass in order to be displayed in markets of a certain size. But then the creatives who threw their lives away learning the most fundamental aspects of how we leave our mark on reality would have some aspect of control over the people who wisely and sagely learned the intricacies of how line go up.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago

Here is an alternative Piped link(s):

https://piped.video/R7vNn-utP8Q

Piped is a privacy-respecting open-source alternative frontend to YouTube.

I'm open-source; check me out at GitHub.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Is this just an ad for Church's Chicken?!?

Reminds me of Bill Hicks.

"I know all the marketing people are going, “He’s doing a joke…” There’s no joke here whatsoever. Suck a tail-pipe, fucking hang yourself, borrow a gun from a Yank friend – I don’t care how you do it. Rid the world of your evil fucking machinations. Whatever, you know what I mean.

I know what all the marketing people are thinking right now too: “Oh, you know what Bill’s doing? He’s going for that anti-marketing dollar. That’s a good market. He’s very smart.”

Oh man, I am not doing that, you fucking, evil scumbags!

“Ooh, you know what Bill’s doing now? He’s going for the righteous indignation dollar. That’s a big dollar. A lot of people are feeling that indignation. We’ve done research – huge market. He’s doing a good thing.”

Godammit, I’m not doing that, you scum-bags! Quit putting a goddamn dollar sign on every fucking thing on this planet!"

RIP

[–] [email protected] 33 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Going for those Bill Hicks nostalgia internet points I see, very smart.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 9 months ago (1 children)

There's a lot of money in nostalgia these days. I agree. He's made the intelligent decision and we should be seeking to uphold the nostalgia momentum he's generated.

Eddie Murphy's Purple Suit.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago

Oh yeah….

Member, remember Steve Martin with an arrow through his head?

[–] [email protected] 15 points 9 months ago (2 children)

I don't see ads. I use uBlock Origin for the internet and view all youtube via browsers and pay for streaming services I want. I don't have cable and am absolutely baffled when I'm forced to watch it at other people's homes.

I occasionally use youtube for background music at work (I have headphones on, leave me alone) and can't install ublock there and holy fuck are youtube ads terrible. I'll never watch that crap.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago

Started collecting music locally again just because of ads and subscriptions, im done wasting even a single second on attention parasites.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

If you have an android, you could look into installing revanced on your phone so you can listen to YouTube with it without ads instead of on your work computer. That's what I do.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago

Yep! I like revanced a lot. But sure to NDAs no phones at work. It's a minor thing since I'm mostly WFH.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 months ago (2 children)

I've felt this way for years now. Especially now that you can't watch a Youtube video without first watching some ad for Jardiance or something. And then being interrupted every 60 seconds to watch more ads.

To be honest, I've never felt compelled to buy anything or switch to any other brand just because of an ad. I'm not about to go out and buy a Ford Bronco because I just saw an ad where a guy is tooling over the sanddunes and rocky cliffs in one.

I wish there was an option for clepping out of ads once you've already viewed them once. But there would just another million more behind it.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Firefox +uBlock Origin = no youtube ads other than the ones that are part of the video itself, which can be skipped. Works for me on PC and android.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago

sponsorblock crowd sources skipping in video and dearrow crowdsources non clickbait thumbnails and titles.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago

I watch way less YouTube now. I can't stand the ads and they never change. For me it's Hertz and some local politician. I have to watch the same ads dozens of times just to watch an hours worth of crap

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

online ads never do. but if i saw a billboard advertising even just the mere presence of a culver's at an exit 100 miles further down the highway.. and it was getting close to feeding time.. yea, we're stopping.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 9 months ago

I've been ad-free for well over a decade (well, except some unavoidable real-life cases like billboards and such).

Get uBlock Origin.

[–] [email protected] 56 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (6 children)

I believe most of us here block as many ads as possible by any means possible. I so rarely see ads that every once in while when I do (on other peoples devices) I'm shocked and disgusted.

https://github.com/pi-hole/pi-hole

https://ublockorigin.com/

https://brave.com/

Is enough for me. If I watch YouTube on mobile it's in Brave browser as that block the ads on iOS.

If I watch YouTube on my TV it's in https://smarttubeapp.github.io/ which also blocks ads.

You don't have to live like that and I feel sorry for all the people that do.

All that being said I know what you mean, even the content itself is now saturated with ads, i.e. a word about our sponsor for five minutes at the start of any video...

[–] [email protected] 16 points 9 months ago (9 children)

I’m sure you know about Brave being called out here lately so I just want to give you some iOS alternatives so you can stop using Brave (if you care enough, of course)

AdGuard (I paid for the lifetime, $12 I think) and it works great. Just like having uBlock on Firefox, but in safari so I still get all the integration that safari offers on your iOS device.

Dark reader is on the App Store.

When it comes to YouTube, I sideload a YouTube app with all the essentials installed using Sideloadly.

The rest is up to you.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

Wipr is also quite good for Safari!

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 9 months ago (2 children)

For the in-video sponsors try sponsorblock.

Or FreeTube, an open source desktop YouTube client with sponsorblock built in.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 months ago

I was actually fine with consuming ads maybe like 8 years ago but things have exponentially ramped up. Nowadays, it's pretty much essential to use ublock and dns level adblock filtering. Also a shame that it's physically outside plastered everywhere.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Not just on the internet, either. If you really want to drive yourself crazy, pay attention to each time you see an advertisement in real life, and imagine if instead there was a piece of artwork in that spot. How would that change how you feel in that moment?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago

What if people didn’t have to sell themselves:(

[–] [email protected] 84 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)
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[–] [email protected] 23 points 9 months ago

Finally something to commit to

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Gods, I love Randal’s hover texts…

[–] [email protected] 8 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

In case you can't easily see it for this strip:

"Branding: Actually, 'RSS&M is kinda catchy."

And that one actually piqued my interest

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago

Do people consider switching their car insurance?

Absolutely. I don't switch mid term, but I definitely look at switching at renewal time. Use a comparison site and check what's available.

Pretty much every year the comparison sites give me better prices than my renewal, sometimes by a massive amount.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 9 months ago (4 children)

Librewolf will block ads for you in addition to a fair amount of other nifty stuff

I used to pay for Youtube Premium for actually quite a while; out of all the cacophony of "it's only $29.87 a month you can afford that" voices it was actually one that had a pretty significant impact on my happiness. But now I just block the ads and fuck 'em.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Does it also keep recommendations?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

It does; you can log in to Youtube and all and still operate everything as normal. Some things don't work (Netflix and HBO Max) because of DRM, which is a little bit of a worrying development. Librewolf seems like it cuts actually a pretty good balance of scrubbing stuff, making you log into services again when you restart it, but working pretty normally 90% of the time and not showing ads. It's a much more pleasant experience (to the point that going back to Chrome and dealing with ads is real off-putting now).

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago

It's only $2.27 if they think you live in a certain country.

2.27 feels reasonable for my family of 5.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago (4 children)

We’ve been using Xbox as our main media player for a long time, I want to set up a plex server or similar but haven’t had time to do my homework on safe execution. Anything that would alleviate ads on xbox?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Hey, this is a pretty good question that I think might get overlooked as it's a child comment in this post.

Try asking that question here:

https://lemmy.world/c/selfhosted

I don't know if that link works properly and hopefully a bot will rescue me if it doesn't

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago

Hi there! Looks like you linked to a Lemmy community using a URL instead of its name, which doesn't work well for people on different instances. Try fixing it like this: [email protected]

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Any other adblocker will also do. I use uBlock origin for Firefox, but there are many other adblockers just as good (or full browsers like brave)

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

Revanced ftw

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago

Librewolf comes bundled with uBlock Origin, which is why it blocks ads so well. I havent seen an ad in years lol.

I’d also recommend the alternative player extension for twitch, as it’s one of the only websites that uBlock doesn’t block ads on.

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