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Florida and Utah have already removed fluoridation from public water systems. What if the rest of the country follows?

The long-term effects of banning fluoride from public drinking water across the country could cost families billions of dollars and result in millions of rotten teeth, a new analysis predicts. 

The study, published Friday in JAMA Health Forum, shows that if all 50 states stopped community water fluoridation programs, kids in the U.S. could expect to develop 25.4 million more cavities within the next five years. 

That’s the equivalent of a decayed tooth in 1 out of every 3 children.

The number of cavities would more than double in 10 years, to 53.8 million.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

We don't do that in Germany and we're not all running around with rotting teeth.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago

While true, Germany does have fluoridated salt and fluoride rinses instead. Its just easier for USA water to be fluoridated since the water supplies are more unified. See https://web.archive.org/web/20170206122513/http://www.wda.org/wp_super_faq/european-countries-have-rejected-fluoridation-so-why-should-we-fluoridate-water

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

replace the fluoride with raw malk

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

Mmm, the listeria builds a stronk immunity.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago

From one of the links:

“Prior to the age of 6, you need to have some fluoride that you swallow so that it can get into the developing permanent teeth,” she said. “That’s the most important time for systemic fluoride.”

Explains why we were forced to take fluoride tablets in school. I wonder if parents (who are pro fluoride) could just do that for their children, if they can’t manage to keep fluoride in the public water supply.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago

Yeah. They don’t know how shitty this is. I grew up in the sticks with well water that had effectively no fluoride. I’ve had increasing amounts of dental work done as I get older. It’s expensive. Painful. Irritating. At least three dentists just outright said “You grew up on well water, didn’t you?” after looking at my teeth. My partner grew up on public fluoridated water and easily has less than 1/3 of the work I’ve had done.

Fluoride has real benefits. These kids will be paying the price for a lifetime.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 week ago

Remember how the UK was sort of made fun of for bad oral hygiene? That's about to be the US.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 week ago (2 children)

without brushing and adequate dental care

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Poor people often can't afford toothbrushes and/or toothpaste, let alone the "recommended" (read: mandatory, or people will say you deserved to lose your teeth) floss, mouthwash, electric toothbrush, etc., all from "reputable brands".

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Poor people often can’t afford toothbrushes and/or toothpaste

... What? Is this sarcasm, or did you mean to say "completely destitute" instead of "poor"?

A quick search on Walmart right now shows a 4 pack of toothbrushes for $2.95 and individual tubes of toothpaste for $1.00.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

There are times, when that $2.95 is needed for your dinner, plus poverty-induced anxiety messes with your brain.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I don't buy this argument. A single toothbrush lasts months, and a tube of paste can also last months if you're careful with it... But even if you don't, it's one freaking dollar. You don't even need to be a beggar to scrounge up a dollar, just walk through any public place and you'll probably find enough coins on the ground.

poverty-induced anxiety messes with your brain.

Someone not brushing their teeth (or otherwise taking care of themselves) because of depression or some other mental illness is a whole different issue. It's also not unique to poverty.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 week ago

A single toothbrush lasts months

Poor people often use them for a year.

Someone not brushing their teeth (or otherwise taking care of themselves) because of depression or some other mental illness is a whole different issue. It’s also not unique to poverty.

But is more common among poor people, because poverty induces a constant state of stress.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

it's not always the cost but the parents that need to set an example. if dental health and good brushing habits taught to children at least the flouride acts as some backup

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Yeah, what that's saying is that US parents are dumb if not cruel to their children. Its pathetic

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago

Yeah, I feel pretty good, living in NJ, that we will be okay for a little while longer. Regardless, though, I spend 2m in the morning and 2m at night with my kids brushing teeth. I hate going to the dentist personally, and the best way to shorten the trip is to give them as little work as possible. Neither of my kids mind the dentist though, it's a problem.

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