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I was wondering what viewpoints and opinions this community has when it comes to cryptocurrency.

Personally, I'm not against it, but I'm not for it either. I like the concept of bringing back cash anonymity, and also decentralization (obviously). Although I don't think it will be viable for at least another decade.

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[โ€“] [email protected] 11 points 7 months ago

Nice tech surrounded by scams.

[โ€“] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I like crypto specially because I'm paid by crypto transactions and at the same time I have investments in crypto and I'm making good money ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘.

[โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

You don't say...

[โ€“] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago

Multiple governments want to have their own cryptocurrencies and bitcoin was recently accepted in ETFs (for investment) which is why its value it skyrocketing right now.

Stablecoins might become actually viable methods of payment or cryptocurrencies created by governments. But stuff like bitcoin, ethereum, and all the ethereum tokens, will probably never become used by a large section of the population for payments. The value just fluctuates too much.

What interests me most is the blockchain being used for voting. Wouldn't surprise me if that happened.

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[โ€“] [email protected] 10 points 7 months ago (1 children)

The initial idea and the aspect of "fuck the banks" intrigued me. Of course now the space is filled with scams and weird crypto dudes (srsly, why so many dudes?) and I have lost faith that the money schemes of the world will ever change.

[โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

There's lots of people who use the dollar and other currencies I don't like. But I still use the currency. Bitcoin has faithfully kept its fiscal policies and promises for 15 years. It's money whose supply can't be diluted through inflation. You can be your own bank. That has never changed. Whatever it originally promised, it's still doing.

[โ€“] [email protected] -1 points 7 months ago

Being your own bank is 99% of the problems crypto runs into. It turns out being your own bank is hard and makes most people into marks. This is of course, by design, and most of the space, the vast majority of the space, is scams.

Also bitcoin has kept its promises just as much as USD has. That's not really a useful metric.

[โ€“] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago

It's really useful for committing crimes on the Internet but as a daily cash replacement I remain unconvinced mostly do to the woeful speed of confirming transactions in most currencies I'm aware of.

[โ€“] [email protected] 14 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

i think it's really cool in theory, but only the anonymous ones. i don't use crypto personally, but it's important that something like it exists.

cryptobros and capitalism have ruined what little reputation the name had, and it's obviously not going to replace "normal" money any time soon.

i feel like it's kind of similar to the cashless systems that most banks use, but you're trading lots of electricity for "not having the economy be owned by a couple of massive corporations". obviously it has it's flaws, but i see that as a worthwhile trade.

edit: oh yeah, i didn't mention it, but this is another vote for monero (it's private and it's an esperanto word :P)

[โ€“] [email protected] 10 points 7 months ago

I think we can all agree on this at least, Monero is Love, Monero is Life

[โ€“] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago

I'm for it in theory. I explored it for a while, since at least March 2010, cf https://fabien.benetou.fr/Tools/Bitcoin

But, sadly, I'm against it in practice. You can see that the same page hasn't been updated since 2016. This is because even though is does work, technically speaking (which is in itself a feat!), socially speaking the impact is IMHO negative. The main use case is speculation about itself and it comes at a huge side effect, namely energy usage (cf IEA's https://www.iea.org/data-and-statistics/charts/bitcoin-energy-use-estimates ). This isn't even about taking into consideration much worst usages, e.g money laundering. Another difference since the early days is that traditional institutions have started to use or sell them. This is very positive in terms of trust, namely that such institutions do a lot of checks because they are legally required too. This is though quite negative from my own ideological standpoint on the very raise d'etre of cryptocurrency because I was initially seeing it through the lens of anarchy, where participants in a system rely on each other and manage their own structure. Few interesting projects happened along those lines, both physically and digitally, but in practice those are, in terms of volume of transactions (and thus energy consumption) marginal. They are mere demonstrations.

So yes I was excited by the prospect, both socially and technologically, but since I've became disillusioned. Cool idea, even cool implementation, boring usage, literally life threatening effect to our one single planet. Not worth it.

I will add this retrospective to my Bitcoin page to reflect that soon.

PS: I understand that Bitcoin is not all cryptocurrencies. I also dabbled (and by that I mean code, including making my own transactions to explore smart contract before it was in the main blockchain) with other cryptocurrencies, including Ethereum. I also had few assets which I liquidated a little while ago from at least 4 different cryptocurrencies. I'm using Bitcoin as a simplification for others because that's where the value literally is today. I'd also argue, which is just me speculating here, that if Bitcoin falls, all other follows even if they'd be technically viable.

[โ€“] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago

I think a lot of us first heard about bitcoin when Paypal shut down donations to Occupy Wall Street and later WikiLeaks.

Both of them turned to bitcoin to accept permissionless donations.

Bitcoin was just the first majorly successful coin. I think most orgs should accept Monero these days, for Privacy reasons.

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Amazing but transaction fees are still too high for normal daily use.

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

Monero transaction fees are between $0.01 to $0.00

Compare that to a bank wire feez which can easily be $100

[โ€“] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Not with L2s like Bitcoin lightning. Your fees come in under a penny in most cases and are not tied to chain space because they are not on chain. This is 100-1000x less than credit cards, for example.

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

Lightning is the universal answer

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