this post was submitted on 06 Sep 2023
20 points (95.5% liked)

Fuck Cars

9379 readers
1038 users here now

A place to discuss problems of car centric infrastructure or how it hurts us all. Let's explore the bad world of Cars!

Rules

1. Be CivilYou may not agree on ideas, but please do not be needlessly rude or insulting to other people in this community.

2. No hate speechDon't discriminate or disparage people on the basis of sex, gender, race, ethnicity, nationality, religion, or sexuality.

3. Don't harass peopleDon't follow people you disagree with into multiple threads or into PMs to insult, disparage, or otherwise attack them. And certainly don't doxx any non-public figures.

4. Stay on topicThis community is about cars, their externalities in society, car-dependency, and solutions to these.

5. No repostsDo not repost content that has already been posted in this community.

Moderator discretion will be used to judge reports with regard to the above rules.

Posting Guidelines

In the absence of a flair system on lemmy yet, let’s try to make it easier to scan through posts by type in here by using tags:

Recommended communities:

founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
 
top 50 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

Do you dare come say this here in Scandinavia please? FYI, you will suffer the date of Vigo the Carpathian, but I promis to erect a nice slab of stone for you.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago

Yeah, I love paying 2 grand a month for something I will never own.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I'd rather see more than just housing if I have to live on a tiny fucking island.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago

Good luck to the apartment dwellers when the next wave of COVID hits.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago

A lot of people are pro-apartmemt before living in one, so here are some fun facts:

  1. Apartments usually have a maintenance cost, that covers as little as possible while still costing a lot. You never really own the flat, the building company does.

  2. You often have a communal garden; it's looked after by the lowest bidding contractor. Not all flats have balconies, so you are unlikely to have your own.

  3. Fear of fire and flooding - if someone else messes up, your stuff is toast/soaked. Insurance companies love that extra risk, it gives them an excuse to charge more.

  4. No flat has good sound proofing - the baby screaming downstairs at 5am and the thunder of the morbidly obese person upstairs going to the bathroom at 1am will denote your new sleep schedule (i.e. disturbed)

  5. I hope you're in for deliveries - apartments have no safe spots to leave things.

  6. You will not be able to afford a flat with the same floor space as a house. I'm sorry, welcome to your new coffin.

  7. Good luck drying your laundry (spoiler, your living room is going to have a laundry rack).

  8. Good luck owning a bike (it's either the bike or your laundry, take your pick).

  9. Vocal intimacy becomes a community event.

Living in a flat is a pile of little miseries grouped together.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago

I live in an apartment. I want to live in a house.

Cunt upstairs neighbour smoking cancer sticks on the balcony, making my room smell like shit when he does it, dumbass neighbour to my right who phones some other dumbass at 6 in the morning, screaming into his phone, waking me up. No garden, can't have a cat or a dog.

I don't want to live in a suburb where I am forced to use a car, but you can live in a house and still be able to get anywhere you want without a car.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You know how computers were supposed to make life so easy we'd only have to work a few hours a week, and how that never happened.

This is the same thing.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

The per capita GDP massively increased. Are you saying your wages did not keep pace??

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I spent seven years living in an apartment. I so enjoyed hearing the neighbors having sex, the thumping music they played, the smell of their cigarette smoke inside my apartment with all my windows closed, the random intrusions by management to repair something unrelated to my apartment, the random rent increases. Add this to the fact that I had no space for a work shop to make anything, and paying the equivalent of a mortgage with no equivalent home equity. Some people love apartment life, but it definitely was not for me.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

You hate shitty apartments, not apartments.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

the problem seems to be when people take "apartment life isn't for me" and then go to the conclusion of "they shouldn't build apartments for anybody"

you don't have to live in one. just let people build them. only allowing single family homes doesn't make single family homes more accessible for anybody, it just makes land more scarce and housing less affordable all around.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Of course. Everyone can live in an apartment if they wish. I will be the one with the house at a reasonable distance.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

This meme is advocating it as the only option

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The issue is that all of those apartments are owned by one person getting filthy fucking rich from rent.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Then organise the renters, let them buy the house to transform it into syndicate or cooperative housing. Social apartment construction isn't impossible.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What a fuckin great idea. Immediate downside is who's in charge of the bills?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

ask yourself this: if the apartment is owned by a company who is in charge of bills?

in the case witht he syndicate, the syndicate is in charge of the bills, the bills are split up among the members, this stuff all already exists btw.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

OP do you live in apartment complex?

load more comments
view more: next ›