Holy moly! Size of this app is 414.4MB. Why is that?
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For those who aren't in the loop, if you like to use OSS, this isn't strictly open source. It is source available.
No thanks. The 4 freedoms are essential. Everybody using this is going to be shocked when they implement ads and/or sell it.
Its license is more of forbidding anyone to use it for commercial purpose. People still can fork it for non-commercial purpose.
https://gitlab.futo.org/videostreaming/grayjay/-/blob/master/LICENSE.md
It's not ideal but I won't blame them. Huge chunk of casual consumer FOSS are distrubuted without permission on mobile, slapping ads and other monetization. Notably, almost all Minecraft clone on Android are based Minetest/Luanti.
The GPL already forbids distributing without the source code being available. People who break GPL will break this license too, and they will have even less resources to fight it. I wish people would stop writing their own licenses and just get behind the GPL. There's already tons of lawyers familiar with it.
So, can't fork if they throw users under the bus?
You can fork it, but not for commercial purposes.
Would this license create complication in case someone wants to fork the project ? Usually, this is the safety of using open source software, should the original dev team go rouge, a team of blue dev might assemble and fork the project to at least prevent regression of capabilities.
also "you may not remove or obscure any functionality in the software related to payment to the Licensor in any copy you distribute to others." 🤡
FUTO's license meets neither the free software definition nor the open source definition.
https://gitlab.futo.org/videostreaming/grayjay/-/blob/master/LICENSE.md
interesting, I haven't seen a licence like that before. I wonder why they didn't go with good ole GPL, as it prevents restrictive commercial use of software quite well.
Their logic is that they provide paid software similar to closed source companies, but give you the source code with it.
Just wondering if this can do something that VLC cannot
I'll admit I only have a shallow familiarity with VLC, but I'd be surprised if it was capable of doing these things:
- Subscribe to Youtube channels (plus a bunch of other platforms)
- Get 'related' videos
- Browse and search individual channels
I've never even thought of VLC as a streaming media player.
VLC is my go-to for streaming local IP camera video.
local IP camera video.
What's that?
Dead link
Search for IP camera, Amazon or wherever you might buy electronics. If the link is dead you probably have Amazon blocked.
Oh thank god, the tarball wouldnt work when i made a .desktop file for it for some reason
Wow, I thought that was just a weird bug with my system config. It actually started working a couple of weeks ago, but for the longest time I could only launch it by double-clicking it through dolphin lol
Yeah I know a lot of people had trouble with it.
I've tried pretty hard to make the switch to grayjay but there's always some snag for me. Sometimes grayjay related, other times service related. I hope the project continues to grow. for the moment I'll be sticking with newpipe and freetube.
the other futo projects are pretty neat, too. the android keyboard works really well.
I love their FUTO voice keyboard input for android
Thank you for the recommendation, I just switched everything to FUTO. I'm hoping it well grow to be as accurate as SwiftKey used to be years back...
For my main keyboard I use heliboard which I found more similar to SwiftKey. But FUTO has a local voice input which can be coupled to it and is really handy for typing long messages. The main FUTO keyboard supposedly isnt bad either.
Yeah personally I much prefer Freetube's UI over Grayjay (on desktop at least). For example, the subscription feed has an annoyingly huge list of subscribed channels that takes up like 25% of the screen real-estate, and you can't hide it. It's also pointless because there's another list of your subscriptions on the left side of the screen. It also can't be launched automatically when opening a YT link with the LibRedirect firefox extension, whereas Freetube can.
But besides design issues like that, Grayjay is much more reliable than Freetube when it comes to bypassing Youtube's bot protections.
I'm very happy with the mobile version. The desktop is still in Alpha though.
I eco this, I like the app.
I can stream not only YT but also PeerTube videos from content creators that I follow. For me this is the big appeal that GrayJay provides and is pretty much underrated. One can have a centralized video platform with GrayJay.
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