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With surveys reporting that an increasing number of young men are subscribing to these beliefs, the number of women finding that their partners share the misogynistic views espoused by the likes of Andrew Tate is also on the rise. Research from anti-fascism organisation Hope Not Hate, which polled about 2,000 people across the UK aged 16 to 24, discovered that 41% of young men support Tate versus just 12% of young women.

“Numbers are growing, with wives worried about their husbands and partners becoming radicalised,” says Nigel Bromage, a reformed neo-Nazi who is now the director of Exit Hate Trust, a charity that helps people who want to leave the far right.

“Wives or partners become really worried about the impact on their family, especially those with young children, as they fear they will be influenced by extremism and racism.”

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (14 children)

Occasionally my partner does or says some things that remind me of the “manosphere” aka 4chan neckbeards.

And when it happens, we talk about it. I don’t pretend or let it go as “he doesn’t mean it” or “he doesn’t know what he’s saying”. I don’t get mad and he doesn’t get mad. We have an adult discussion and I’m careful not to talk down to him.

A perfect example was that he sometimes says “females” when he means “women”. I explain that it’s not a swear word but it’s still derogatory. I explain why. Once I did, he understood and stopped doing it.

It doesn’t have to be a big deal! Communication is key!

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (2 children)

It's surprising to me that married people are falling for this shit. I thought it was just incels desperate for anything that might give them a chance or an excuse.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

it isn't about being single, its about the modern hell world instilling extreme helplessness in vulnerable people, and they seek any answers whatsoever. the manosphere happily provides 'answers' in exchange for money

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (3 children)

It has also seeped into every aspect of male culture. You want to watch a YouTube show about cars? Sure. The first couple episodes are normal and then they start sliding in dumb shit.

You listen to a podcast about working out? Same thing goes. It’s little stuff here and there. Sometimes it starts as a reoccurring joke, but it keeps happening until they actually believe.

I also find there are a lot of young people who aren’t comfortable on computers and basically believe whatever they see on the internet, much like an older generation.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

Yeah, I was enjoying some videos about dumb Steven Seagal movies, but then I realized that every single one would have jokes about women being bad drivers, being overly emotional, etc. At first I took it as a humorous way to look at Seagal's misogyny, but then it became apparent that it was being applied in other cases where it didn't make sense. It was subtle, in the context of the rest of the videos, but a definitely present part was the manosphere mentality.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

I literally just blocked an NSFW lemmit of misogynygonewild and it blew my mind it was even a thing. Fucking trash.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (5 children)

12% of young women support Tate? That's way higher than what I expected :( I can't understand why would any woman support someone who makes a fortune out of exploiting and abusing women openly

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (5 children)

Tradwife content is on the rise for women as well, more and more young people are buying into this mythical simpler past as the world gets more complex, alienating and difficult.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I can understand that but how come being a webcam girl and endure physical and psychological abuse fit in the "tradwife" narrative? It's particularly support for Tate what I can't understand

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago (4 children)

I think this is ambigous. When people are asked "do you support the views of Andrew Tate?" How many actually know these in particular? What if individual views are asked and then if more than 50% are answered with "support" it is considered to support his views overall?

I've read enough news to know that Tate is a terrible person and probably a serious criminal. But i would not be able to describe his views, nor do i want to find out what his views are exactly.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

I looked at the one for mysoginy

One in four of the young people who have heard of Tate have a favourable opinion of him, but there is a clear gender divide: only 12% of female respondents have a positive view, compared to 41% of young men.

We asked young people what they liked about Tate. The top three reasons overall are: “He’s not afraid to push back against ‘woke’ ideology” (24%), “He wants men to be real men” (22%) and “He tells it how it is” (20%). Although it is commonly thought that Tate’s opulent lifestyle, cars and fitness are an entrypoint through which young people become interested in his content, admiration for lifestyle (14%) and humour (11%) do not rank as highly. This suggests that the main pull of Andrew Tate for young people is his hateful activism.

That said, younger Tate supporters aged 16-17 and female respondents are more likely to admire his lifestyle, at 20% and 18% respectively. Putting Tate’s motivational and fitness content within a wider context of his divisiveness and hatefulness, as well as signposting other figures who produce similar lifestyle content without the underlying misogyny, could be an important step in combating his influence on younger, female audiences.

I think the source provides a nuanced picture and offer suggestions how to combat his influence that got lost in the short notion in the guardian article.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

Fair enough, so there is a possibility that this article (or the surveys it's based on) are being somewhat misleading. I hope you are right

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

All I know about Tate's views are that he's a male supremacist of some sort.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

And rapist, human trafficker, scammer, etc etc etc.

Scumbucket for short.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago (6 children)

"Do you regularly watch videos by Jordan Peterson?" kinda needs to become one of those before-first-date screening questions.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

either that or: ben shapiro, or joe roegan videos.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

What if the answer is yes, but I'm laughing at him the whole time?

Editing this dumb two day old throwaway comment to point out if you want to actually overcome the rhetoric you disagree with, then you need to pay enough attention to it to actually interact with people who take it seriously, because apparently I'm still getting replies.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Spoilers: there were signs

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Sometimes it's easier to stay with the devil you know than chance the devil you don't.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago (5 children)

You want a trad wife? Get your sorry ass to work buying her cars, clothes, houses, furnishings so she can focus on making your home. Kids in private school, high class vacations, all of it.

Provider is a title that is earned and I doubt even a thousandth of these blowholes are up to the task of being a trad husband.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

Thank you, I'd rather be a trophy husband than support a tradwife

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I’m not sure ML is the right place for you hehe

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

A lifetime of experience has taught me the fastest way to poke through someone's hubris is to take their bullshit deadly seriously.

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