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[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Brilliant, all the propaganda about "join us, the fediverse is like email" gone to shit. More like "it's like email, but if you email ends with @hotmail.com we will block your messages".

I agree with the sentiment, not with these actions, instead of giving meta users a way to break free, we built a wall between us and them, who have way more content, because we're afraid of Zuck stealing our data, which is public and he already done.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

It's not about stealing data, it's about not letting Zuck gain influence and control of the fediverse.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

Embrace, extend, extinguish.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 months ago

Ehm... Shouldn't Fediverse be... Open?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Someone should make a post about why blocking Threads is good and why it's not to be confused with gate keeping. If not properly communicated, this could look very badly for the uninitiated and they're not to blame.

Some people of course have an educated opinion against blocking, but many presumably don't know the reasons behind it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

FYI the 41% of instances that block or limit Threads (from the source data which doesn't have every instance), accounts for 24% of the user base of the fediverse.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 months ago (2 children)

FOSS bros: we’re all about user choice!

also FOSS bros: no not like that

[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 months ago

Someone failed ethics class really hard.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

You're downplaying your own part, in between those two statements.

Internet rando: "I choose to enable this corporate, repeat privacy offender in strongarming its way into the open, federated web"

Edit: spelling

[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

How is Threads going to breach your privacy by federating with your instance? How is de federating from Threads going to protect your privacy?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Do you think this is Threads' final form? Embrace, extend, extinguish. This is what corporations do. Everything is a zero sum game in their minds, and they will act in the best interest of shareholders. That shit has no business here.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I was going to reply but you nailed it. Its about outmaneuvering smaller competitors and controlling the marketplace, and then harvesting user data for profit.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

They can already harvest the data. Nothing on the ActivityPub is private

[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Sure, ignore my actual point. This is getting monotonous; enjoy Threads.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

What point was that? If you don't join Threads, they don't have your data. They do have everything you publish to the Fediverse though, no matter what you do.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 months ago

Buddy...

Its about outmaneuvering smaller competitors and controlling the marketplace

Work on your reading retention instead of plastering your one-note hot take all over the convo. This exchange is over.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

ITT:

"Nobody understands fedipact, Jabber, activitypub, Ruby, embrace/extend/extinguish, mastodon, lemmy, Java, federation, Kubernetes, XMPP, Docker, architecture, carburetors, Ikebana, midwifery, Filipino stickfighting, Zoroastrianism, hegelian philosophy, or XML but me, and therefore you're all morons with nothing to contribute to this conversation".

[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 months ago

java is oracle

[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Maybe a hot take, but if you want this big libertarian anarchist federated system you get all the pros and cons along with it. Not having a central authority means you have no real power to stop someone from coming in and taking it. It’s inevitable by design.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Sure, to a certain extent. But having an ability to opt out is far healthier than the walled gardens we have now.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

In theory. In reality you’re bringing feather dusters to a nuclear bomb fight. A handful of hobbyists hosting instances with how many users? Couple hundred thousand? Against a 100 Billion dollar company with 3 Billion people? Yea good luck with that.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

How do you think this works? Yes, Meta will partake in the Fediverse. No one is trying to stop that. That chart won't get to 100% and no one cares if it does. People are just ensuring that there's a place where Meta won't be, and you don't need billions to do that.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 10 months ago

Look at a pie chart of "internet users of x type platform" from pre fediverse. If original internet dies and fedi does take off, it will be the same chart but they will be instances instead of www sites. There are still plenty of those prefacebook, premyspace forums on the www, it's just only a few people use them.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 10 months ago (2 children)

How many have blocked discourse ? Better to be safe than sorry.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

And Flipboard! Gotta make sure the Fediverse's garden walls are impenetrable!

[–] [email protected] -1 points 10 months ago

Yes Flipboard too. A reminder of why we must protect ourselves

[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] -1 points 10 months ago

They are a private entity, we can't trust them.

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