My first months on Lemmy were spent on Lemmy.world, which was the biggest instance at the time. I had no experience with Hexbear because .world had defederated that instance. I sometimes saw it being described as a "tankie" instance, but it was nothing specific.

After I moved to .zip, I came across [email protected], which seemed to be free from anything overtly political and reminded me of r/Gamingcirclejerk, so I subscribed to it and occasionally made comments related to gaming.

Today I made multiple comments to a post about an article on the STALKER game developers having removed the Soviet symbols and the Russian audio in the remastered edition of the game. I would argue that in the thread, there were no comments from me that could be construed by a reasonable person as defensive of Nazism, fascism, or even hinting at it. For example, in one of the comments, I linked a Ukrainian law that prohibits the use of Nazi symbols, though I highly advise looking through all my ten comments as to avoid any misunderstanding or false impressions.

Conversely, one comment posted by another user dismissed Holodomor as Nazi propaganda, which I reported, but a moderator of that community just ended up calling me out for that and taking no action, followed by them banning me.

The thread containing all of my untouched posts is still available via lemmy.zip. My comments are also available for viewing via my user page. They are not available on hexbear due to the ban.

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[–] [email protected] -2 points 49 minutes ago

It's easy to get banned on that instance if you're not sticking to the facts. They're quite sensitive in this matter. Holodomor is Nazi propaganda tho.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 hour ago

Hexbear tankies really are something incredible. I've been around left-wing politics most of my life and in the real world I've met like one or two people actually like them. Difficult to understand where they all came from. I'm thinking maybe it's a r/Pyongyang where it started as a joke and then they started taking it seriously.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 hours ago

Getting banned from hexbear is your initiation into the broader world of lemmy. It happens to everyone who isn't a tankie at some point. Wear it with pride

[+] [email protected] -9 points 9 hours ago (5 children)

Honestly the entirety of Lemmy is far left so for them anything not far left is nazi. If you're not far left, switch to a different platform or don't talk about anything even remotely connected to politics.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

The entirety of Lemmy far left? You must be an American. .world is blatantly majority centre-left.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 47 minutes ago

Well in "far left" I mean "aggressively behaving left". I'm not really up to date with the classification.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 hours ago

Other than commie symbolism, whitewashing and apologism being a problem, lemmy is pretty normal for a community of mostly educated people.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago) (1 children)

I agree with your point that "the ideas furthest from you politically all look alike" (aka political myopia), that's why fascists think everyone left of an ultraneoliberal is a "dirty commie" and why tankies think everyone right of liberal socialists are nazis (no, I'm not one of those who say elon is not a nazi, he is, but for his own actions, lol). It's just terrifying when you see a friend of yours imbibe that bullshit and suddenly call everyone they don't like (including FDR) a commie...are they fascist now? :/

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

It's just terrifying when you see a friend of yours imbibe that bullshit and suddenly call everyone they don't like a commie...are they fascist now?

Nah it's just far right and far left movements are similar. They do the same things to those with a different opinion. What makes leftists way more successful is their disguise. They claim to support very nice things and people believe them. But ultimately both of them want a dictatorship of their opinion. After all they're on the ends of the political spectrum for a reason.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago) (1 children)

I don't know yet, I've seen democratic communists, like Lula, who are a bit daft sometimes (e.g. meeting putin wearing his little St. George ribbon, somebody slap him 😠💢 , hard), but who truly believe in welfare, nonviolence, human rights and democracy. I even understand that he is unnerved and aggrieved by bozo's foreign-backed efforts to destroy Brazil, but he's also making strange bedfellows.

But I've never seen a democratic/"cuddly" fascist that doesn't eventually take their mask off and the whip out...maybe Meloni so far (I don't understand italian politics enough to get what damage she's done) or maybe peronismo...

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

Well afaik far right movements are supposed to be aggressive. That's a part of their views.

Non aggressive leftists may exist but from my experience most of them are either aggressive or look nice only on the outside and are easy to make show their true personality. I guess that's the kind of leftism that's by far the most popular now.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Fuck that, I will gladly use Lemmy to tell tankies to fuck off. And if I get banned on some instances then so be it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 hours ago

That's my man.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Tankies are primarily authoritarians, not really far left in any useful sense of that term. And even though they are vocal, they definitely don't constitute "the entirety of Lemmy".

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago) (2 children)

I'm not very sure about that. I don't get banned on literally every community for being right wing (even when I talk about it) but I do feel hostility coming from everyone. I understand that their opinion is way different to mine but if they act passively/actively aggressive towards other opinions (not just me), doesn't it make them tankies automatically?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 15 minutes ago* (last edited 11 minutes ago)

I always thought tankies are mostly stalinists and nostalgic brezhnevists, a violent and fanatic type of marxist-leninist who will crush anyone and anything to establish their utopia. They don't argue much, it's just aesthetics, violence and rhetoric, they are essentially red fascists. Most communists I know (which includes leninists, but not only) are mostly pacifist...but they will quickly turn authoritarian to tamp down any fascists and rich people who get a little too uppity, so yea, naturally, rule of law and property rights are secondary to them.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 hours ago

I don’t get banned on literally every community for being right wing

You do know where you are, right? Did you get lost?

[–] [email protected] 21 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (3 children)

putin sympathizes with elon nazi musk. I wonder what they think about him.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 47 minutes ago

They fucking hate both, Putin because he's a liberal and Musk because he's a deeply unserious shithead.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Musk can't be a nazi, he is white, loves trump, hates minorities, wants white power, supports putin and comes from a family with strong beliefs. There is no way mr putin would befriend nazis, as he is waging a war against invasion of nazis right this moment.

I think thats what they think.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

*comrade putin

[–] [email protected] 3 points 46 minutes ago

That's the funniest thing. Like, if you were an original Hungary-era tankie, at least you could say "the Soviet Union is the leader of the worldwide Communist movement, I believe what the SU says about itself." But Putin's Russia is explicitly not Communist or Socialist in any way. Putin's ideology is inconsistent but his public statements are all basically imperial or "blood and soil" nationalism. How do they twist this guy into being a "comrade?"

[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

They will claim to hate him (and Trump), and then keep on regurgitating propaganda constructed in favour of him.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Well, now you know why sensible admins defederate from this trash. I'd suggest using an app that allows you to block instances from your side and ignore them.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

You don’t need an app, it’s a native Lemmy feature.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Only since 0.19.1, many instances haven't updated yet.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 13 hours ago

That’s a year and a half. If you’re on an instance that is that outdated, you should consider migrating.

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