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Linux is a family of open source Unix-like operating systems based on the Linux kernel, an operating system kernel first released on September 17, 1991 by Linus Torvalds. Linux is typically packaged in a Linux distribution (or distro for short).

Distributions include the Linux kernel and supporting system software and libraries, many of which are provided by the GNU Project. Many Linux distributions use the word "Linux" in their name, but the Free Software Foundation uses the name GNU/Linux to emphasize the importance of GNU software, causing some controversy.

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[–] Synthead@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

To be fair, forcing a bunch of software on the machine users own was never a good move, and in my opinion, not a new normal.

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[–] Pantherina@feddit.de 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Plasma is not a system, but I see how they didnt want to confuse people here

[–] oce@jlai.lu 3 points 2 years ago (2 children)

It is a desktop environment system.

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[–] Franzia@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 2 years ago (4 children)

Linux is the modern OS and windows is just a bunch of old shitty technology in a trench suit.

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[–] glibg10b@lemmy.ml 8 points 2 years ago (7 children)

Windows 11 takes your money, gives you ads, sells your information and ignores your bug reports and feature requests

KDE is free, ad-free and open to contribution

I think we have a clear winner here

[–] CaptnNMorgan@reddthat.com 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

But can it play Starfield with an Nvidia GPU? I originally had popos on my PC until Starfield came out, I had to switch to Windows to play.

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[–] BuddyTheBeefalo@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago

In the newest windows, it is even possible to hover the volume icon and change it with the mouse wheel!!!

[–] GustavoM@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago (2 children)

"But can Linux install things via a single .exe file? HAHAH EAT IT NERD!"

- 10'ish years ago past me, before discovering the magical wonders of the package manager

[–] RQG@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I found since people are used to app stores, I've had a much easier time convincing people to try out Linux. My mom even said that she always wished her windows PC had a proper app store.

[–] Tavarin@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

But Windows does have an app store, and has for ages now.

[–] savedbythezsh@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Yeah but it's awful, and can only install UWP apps which are just plain bad

[–] Jayayess1190@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago

When is the last time you've used it? Microsoft opened it up and now you can find all types of non UWP apps in it.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

I think it's still important to explain the key difference between an "app store" and a package repository: the latter isn't a "store" because everything is free.

[–] Zamundaaa@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Thst might change with Flathub's ambitions to become an actual app store though

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[–] RQG@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

True but it helps get the concept across so much.

[–] embed_me@programming.dev 2 points 2 years ago (2 children)

With app images it's easier than installing. Although the chmod step will deter the typical windows user

[–] theshatterstone54@feddit.uk 1 points 2 years ago

With file managers, for example in thunar, you can select Properties -> Permissions -> Allow this file to run as a program

[–] Kierunkowy74@kbin.social 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

What chmod step?

When I clicked on new app image, the OS told me, that program /name of app/ will be launched, I clicked "Continue" and it runs! No meddling with "chmod" or anything like that.

[–] user224@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 2 years ago

Same, I love AppImages for that. I just wish they also had way to contain configurations instead of putting it on the system. That would make it even more portable.

[–] HouseWolf@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

So basically ever since I first tried Windows 7 I held it as the "Gold standard" for desktop OS's. Half my tweaks to Windows 10 were trying to get it as close to Win7 as I possibly could.

When I finally start experimenting with Linux early this year KDE quickly got me to reconsider my "Gold standard" and finally switch my main machine fully to Linux.

No regrets and certainly ain't switching back even if Microsoft gave me updated Windows 7 with every extra feature I wanted back then.

[–] Patch@feddit.uk 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

I've been a Linux user for a decade and a half now, but still use Windows on my corporate laptops. Honestly, it's baffling how Microsoft seem to consistently manage to miss the mark with the UI design. There's lots to be said about the underlying internals of Windows vs Linux, performance, kernel design etc., but even at the shallow, end user, "is this thing pleasant to use" stakes, they just never manage to get it right.

Windows 7 was...fine. It was largely inoffensive from a shell point of view, although things about how config and settings were handled were still pretty screwy. But Windows 8 was an absolutely insane approach to UI design, Windows 10 spent an awful lot of energy just trying to de-awful it without throwing the whole thing out, and Windows 11 is missing basic UI features that even Windows 7 had.

When you look at their main commercial competition (Mac and Chromebook) or the big names in Linux (GNOME, KDE, plenty of others besides), they stand out as a company that simply can't get it right, despite having more resources to throw at it than the rest of them put together.

[–] SkyeStarfall@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

To me it's absurd how Microsoft gets beaten by a free desktop environment when windows is like their main product. They have billions of dollars. How do they manage to not do better?

[–] cygnus@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

windows is like their main product

TBF it isn't really - only about 12% of their revenue. It's more of a means to lock people into their other products.

[–] SkyeStarfall@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Well, that's the thing, it's the core part of their entire business. The glue that sticks everything together. Or at least used to be until Azure.

[–] kittenzrulz123@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Microsoft will probably never truly catch up with KDE

[–] GravitySpoiled@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Plasma 6 is approaching fast

[–] kurcatovium@lemm.ee 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] Atemu@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago

Approaching at $9.99/month.

[–] MasterNerd@lemm.ee 12 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Kinda weird that they're calling it an OS, but ig they're just trying to cater to the windows audience

[–] killerinstinct101@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (2 children)

KDE neon is what they're selling

[–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Neon is more of a testbed than a proper distro (they don't actually even use that word).

Is this "the KDE distro"?

Nope. KDE believes it is important to work with many distributions, as each brings unique value and expertise for their respective users. This is one project out of hundreds from KDE.

[–] rbits@lemm.ee 1 points 2 years ago

It's a proper distro, that's just saying it's not THE official one

[–] glibg10b@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 years ago

Selling as in advertising, I might add. Neon is free

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