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Improving the Fediverse to allow it to actually take over the social media space. (lemmy.world)

submitted 1 day ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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Decentralization is obviously the big thing about the Fediverse but is it TOO decentralized to gain traction?

There is no reason why they have to be fully separate domains in the same branch. You can set up a system of fully independent moderation and extreme levels of customization while having them all on one site with a front page that allows everyone to see whats popular.

A front page wouldn't prevent individual subgroups from requiring approval to join, it wouldn't prevent subgroups from banning those it doesn't want. It doesn't prevent users from blocking subgroups that it doesn't want to see on the front page.

What would be most useful is that now someone could create an account on the Reddit, Twitter, Facebook(?) alternatives and give them access to every community, and then allow each community to set its own rules, and customize its own to be unique while having a unified product to "sell" and get people to move.

Hot take? Blue Sky should be worked with to join the Fediverse as the twitter alternative and Mastodon should work to be the Facebook alternative

TLDR: One front page and general site for Lemmy, Mastodon....and to sign up and see whats popular and then have fully independent subgroups.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 day ago (6 children)

But who would control this front page?

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 day ago (4 children)

IMO, it isn't decentralized enough. The federated model is better than centralized corporate services, of course, but it still suffers many of the same pitfalls in microcosm. We need private, encrypted friend-to-friend connections that enable friend-of-a-friend onion routing to those outside one's personal social circle to effectively mimic how real human social networks actually work. The only middlemen we need are the friends we made along the way.

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It would give an enormous power to who controls this "front page". This page could restrict any user arbitrarily, lock them out, spy on them, etc. And because this page would be unique, they would have no alternative. This is exactly why federation is a key to freedom.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Google Chat or whatever uses to be federated via XMPP, but then they slowly started making incompatibility changes. Due to it being such a dominant chatting service, the real federated versions died out.

Basically I'm saying it's not worth it. If you want to support Threads or Blue Sky as a central front page to the Fediverse then go for it, but they don't actually need your support.

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