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Vladimir Putin and Donald Trump have held a rare phone call, which the US leader described as “excellent,” but the Kremlin refused to agree to a ceasefire in the war with Ukraine, despite pressure from Washington and European allies.

Speaking to reporters in Sochi after the two-hour conversation on Monday, Putin described the call as “very meaningful and frank,” and said he was prepared to work with Ukraine on drafting a memorandum for future peace talks.

However, the Russian leader declined to support the US-proposed 30-day unconditional ceasefire, which Ukraine had already agreed to – and which Washington had framed as the call’s primary objective.

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 19 hours ago (4 children)

I'm beginning to think Trump doesn't really have a plan for anything. I don't want to hear all the controversy a comment like this can bring out people. I said what I said. I stand by it.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

I'm also starting to think this Hitler guy might have been a bit racist. /s

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 hours ago

I didn't even know he was sick.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago)

he defers all his plannings to putin, and puts on an act so that putin would look like the reasonable one in these "talks". hes also extremely lazy thats why he rarely pushes back against people who has more wealth or power than he does.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 18 hours ago

The only objectionable thing said was "beginning to", so probably relatively safe from controversy

[–] [email protected] 13 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Well it's a concept of a plan

[–] [email protected] 3 points 12 hours ago

He saw a movie once where a guy had a plan and he really liked the idea of the concept of having a plan.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 22 hours ago

The president of the US of Russia doesn't want a ceasefire. We all know that.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

How I bet that call went:

"Agent Krasnov speaking, may I take your order?"

[–] [email protected] 7 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

he was prepared to work with Ukraine on drafting a memorandum for future peace talks.

Talks for drafting a memo regarding talks for drafting a plan for talks regarding a setting for talks regarding a plan for peace talks somewhere down the road...

Putain has zero intention of ending this without the full and complete subjugation of Ukraine.

🤷‍♂️ 🤡 🖕

[–] [email protected] 6 points 21 hours ago (3 children)

Putain has zero intention of ending this without the full and complete subjugation of Ukraine.

Even if Russia subjugated the entirety of Ukraine, they still couldn't afford to stop. They've completely transitioned to a war time economy and have isolated all foreign capital.

If Putin decides to end the campaign in Ukraine, it would just mean that they're about to invade somewhere like Slovenia. They're economy couldn't handle the transition into a regular economy without imploding.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 hours ago

I mean, even their wartime economy is getting questionable. They're running out of old WWII tanks to refurbish, the cost of rural Siberian lives keeps going up, and revenues keep going down.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 17 hours ago

it would also make putin look weak to moscowvites and st petersburg russians.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 17 hours ago

I agree with you, but I would bet Slovenia is not very high on the "where to invade next" list😅

[–] [email protected] 5 points 23 hours ago (2 children)

He ceaded everything to Putin at the get go and now is surprised he won't compromise.

What was the title of that book again?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 17 hours ago

putin said he wants more and more everytime.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 21 hours ago

The Shart of the Meal

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago
[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Is anyone surprised

I'm assuming that phone call was basically the same energy as Adam & Joe asking Dermott O'Leary to get shit from a service station

Except with zero concession

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

They are doing exactly what Israel did and doing to Palestine. Slowly blaming them for fail fake deals.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 12 hours ago

Israel and russia are allies

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago

Trump: "Zelensky, you need us so that we can make sure Putin takes more land."

Zelensky: "You're right. I have such great respect for you, Mr. President."

Tell that Putin puppet Trump that he's a weak ass bitch Zelensky, else you look like one.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Neither of them want a ceasefire. Russia wants to take over Ukraine and Trump wants to pretend that he's always busy trying to solve the problem when he isn't going to do a single thing to stop the war. They'll keep the war going as long as possible for their own needs.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago)

russia has to make it look like ukraine and USA is unreasonable, so they can justify thier actions more, also its meant for internal consumption as well.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 day ago

Giving weapons to Ukraine is what counts as bargaining with Putin. Phonecalls don't matter.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Still none of that peace he promised day one over 100 days into his presidency.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 17 hours ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 17 hours ago

art of the steal, trumps edition.

[–] [email protected] 47 points 1 day ago (1 children)

"It was an excellent phone call. A beautiful phone call. I didn't get anything I wanted and I only needed to give Putin our launch codes. Can you believe it? Such a beautiful call."

[–] [email protected] 3 points 12 hours ago

Putin is a very samart man. He said that i'm handsome and strong. Can you believe how smart he is? He once fought a bear with only a povket kife and he said i was probably stonger than him.

What about the war?

What war?

[–] [email protected] 112 points 1 day ago (6 children)

Didn't this bloke say one phone call and he would end the war of something?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 hours ago

Yes. He says whatever he wants, though, and doesn't worry about it being true.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

He didn't say which phone call though.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 hours ago

Though he did say he'd do it before he was in office, so now that he's in office, we know it's not happening

[–] [email protected] 5 points 17 hours ago

The other bloke also said he won't invade in another phone call so...

With this one we can at least be fairly certain he tells the truth.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 23 hours ago

He never hung up so it doesn't count.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Yes but not that phone call.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 day ago

He's just waiting for the right moment.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 day ago

Ah you're right

[–] [email protected] 94 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Yeah, but to be fair he is stupid as fuck.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 12 hours ago

America's finest

[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 day ago (1 children)

And a liar. And credibly accused of being a Russian asset.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 hours ago

And a rapist.

And a convicted felon.