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Feddit post in support of zionism germany-coolqin-shi-huangdi-fireball

Hi.

In the past few days, discontent regarding mod decisions in this community has been brewing, particularly when it comes to comments on Palestine, Israel, and Israeli politics and actions. There are also misunderstandings regarding mod intention and German law. We hope to clear that up with this post.

While the servers of feddit.org are in Austria, most of the mods of this community as well as admins of this server live in Germany. Speaking of, our server admins have also posted a write-up on the same topic.

And with that, let’s go:

In Germany, antisemitism is specifically sanctioned in German criminal law, both for speech and as a motivation for other criminal behavior. In addition, Germany seeks to protect the Jewish state of Israel (the so-called “Reason of State” introduced in 2008) and thus verges toward protecting Zionism as well. Certain criticism of Israel/Israelis is also categorized as “Israel-related antisemitism”.

Since criminal law is involved, enforcement can mean things like police raids and device confiscations. After such police action, it does not really matter if it was appropriate or if cases are dropped or never charged: The damage is done. All told, it’s not that fun.

There is also no point in engaging in discussions about the veracity of statements that could get us into legal trouble. In addition, we believe that you can express most opinions without breaking rules.

Another post about they are totally not Zionazis isntrael

Hello all,

in the last few days there have been some accusations against the moderators of [email protected] as well as against our admin team of being Nazis or Zionists, mainly because of the way of dealing with criticism of Israel.

We explicitly reject these accusations and will not tolerate such accusations. In particular, people who accuse others in this way without any concrete objective reason are not welcome on feddit.org. This is already covered by our rule of respectful interaction.

First of all, we would like to remind you, that the use of feddit.org must be compliant with the rights and regulations of the DACH region. This is explicitly mentioned in our instance rules, and includes Germany (D), Austria (A) and Switzerland (CH). The infrastructure of feddit.org is maintaind by the Fediverse Foundation, a non-profit association in Austria. Our Admin team, which takes care of the instance wide moderation, organization and supporting infrastructure operations, is based in Germany. Since we primarily target the German speaking coutries, we also try to comply with laws and regulations of Switzerland.

Even if we do not have to actively search for violations of the law, it is necessary to intervene after becoming aware of them. This includes, for example when moderators or admins receive messages about posts or comments, but also when such content is discovered by chance when browsing Lemmy.

In this instance, we fully support the moderators of [email protected] to potentially remove too much rather than too little in case of legal uncertainties.

One of the triggers for the current debate is this post, which followed the removal of a comment comparing National Socialism with the current situation in Israel, which can be considered a trivialization of National Socialism. Such statements can, among other things, lead to imprisonment. Among other things, the post claimed that the removal had a Zionist motive, an accusation that should always be supported by appropriate evidence and prior to which it should be ruled out that there are alternative explanations.

We will not be removing every comment that goes even remotely in this direction, but we reserve the right to permanently ban users from feddit.org who make unfounded accusations, such as labeling our instance, admins, moderators, or other users as Nazis or Zionists, without substantial supporting arguments. This is especially the case when this is recurring behavior and not an isolated incident.

This includes content such as this post by @[email protected], who was banned from our instance shortly before that post due to multiple incitements of violence and terrorism. This person also seems to be the admin of the instance quokk.au, or at least to have good relations to the admin, since we received a censure on Fediseer from quokk.au around the same time, in which we are being accused of being Zionists and Nazis, and @[email protected] has suggested to defederate quokk.au from us (archive).

If this censure by quokk.au is not withdrawn in a timely manner, we will defederate quokk.au from our side for these unsubstantiated and untrue accusations. quokk.au is a relatively small instance with only a few local users, which tried to build an alternative news community that is not on one of the “big” instances. Unfortunately, this community also seems to be a poor alternative if this is how their admin typically acts.

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[–] [email protected] 29 points 3 weeks ago

In addition, we believe that you can express most opinions without breaking rules.

"Unless you're explicitly supporting the right of Palestinians to exist, in which case go fuck yourself"

[–] [email protected] 33 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

One of the triggers for the current debate is this post, which followed the removal of a comment comparing National Socialism with the current situation in Israel, which can be considered a trivialization of National Socialism. Such statements can, among other things, lead to imprisonment.

Comparing hamas to national socialism, comparing Oct 7 to the holocaust is rank trivialization and denialism.

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[–] [email protected] 49 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

"We are not zionists, we are just the most pathetic nerds ever"

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I am totally open to being wrong and changing my view:

~~That seems like a reasonable stance to me. It actually really fucking sucks to have your infrastructure in Austria. Perhaps this would land better if they made an attempt to move their infrastructure out of Austria. But I don't want my shit confiscated or have the dog shooting murder-thumb gang come to my house. It's a really fucked up and chilling law.~~

Again, the lack of "I'd leave it up if I could" and "I want to fix this" speaks volumes. Arguably it's all you have to cite. ~~But short of that it seems internally consistent.~~

Nope, I just changed my own mind

isntrael amerikkka eu-cool

[–] [email protected] 40 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

I think this exchange makes it pretty clear that they're just zionists hiding behind legislation they agree with:

solarpunk enjoyers not beating the allegations lol. fucking fascists

[–] [email protected] 28 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

lol that the solarpunk admin, they been repeating "we are just following orders" defence in diferent posts for like 2 days now

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[–] [email protected] 36 points 3 weeks ago

There is also no point in engaging in discussions about the veracity of statements that could get us into legal trouble. In addition, we believe that you can express most opinions without breaking rules.

I wonder if their grandfathers said something similar in 1933 and how many of them were rightfully killed for that.

[–] [email protected] 47 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

If this was a community specifically about the middle-east I would agree with you that it would have been unwise to host it on feddit.org due to the legal situation affecting its admins and some of the moderators here.

But it is not, and generally speaking Germany is not an autocratic state with severe repression of political activism, so for most topics it is a better place to host communities that might involve such.

Oh! Good thing Germany doesn't punish the most important political activism! You might not be able to criticize the most horrifying crime going on in the world at the moment, but at least you can talk about fantasy Hobbit communes!

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[–] [email protected] 48 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 88 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Wow the German instance is full of nazis? Nobody could see that coming

[–] [email protected] 56 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

All european instances have been showing they are ass lately, First the ukkk and now the germany-cool

at this point i would be surprise if next month the one from the netherlands becomes anti-migrant nazis

[–] [email protected] 28 points 3 weeks ago

I did Nazi that happening.

[–] [email protected] 62 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

History, as it does, will recognize this genocide for what it is, and will not only condemn thise who are carrying it out, but those who are standing idly by and letting it happen.

One would think that Germsns would be particularly aware of that fact, and after already being responsible for one genocide, would deliberately not be complicit in another.

[–] [email protected] 65 points 3 weeks ago (7 children)

German support of isreal is mostly as a way to whitewash its past from its fascist behavior so that can still continue it, they never learned anything

[–] [email protected] 23 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

That German Guilt Pride video really unpacks this really well too. I'll see of I can dig up the link.

https://youtu.be/Vy2ju_qPtuM

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 weeks ago

I found a YouTube link in your comment. Here are links to the same video on alternative frontends that protect your privacy:

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 weeks ago

I found a YouTube link in your comment. Here are links to the same video on alternative frontends that protect your privacy:

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[–] [email protected] 50 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

instance, admins, moderators, or other users as Nazis or Zionists, without substantial supporting arguments.

"We are only zionazis if you convince us we are in the free marketplace of ideas."

Tbh shit like this is why hexbear is the literal only space online I feel the least bit comfortable speaking in (and probably lemmygrad as well).

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[–] [email protected] 38 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

They also threaten to defedarate from a small instance because they called out their zionism on fediseer, they are scared of any criticism

[–] [email protected] 28 points 3 weeks ago

let them isolate lol

[–] [email protected] 83 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Posting it here before everyone else

[–] [email protected] 39 points 3 weeks ago

At this point we should all have to fill one of these out before we are allowed to create an account and comment on anything.

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