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A combination shot would make it easier for people to get vaccinated against Covid and the flu at the same time.

Moderna’s combined Covid and flu shot outperformed the existing standalone vaccines for both viruses, according to the results of a phase 3 clinical trial published Wednesday in theJournal of the American Medical Association

The vaccine uses the same messenger RNA technology as Moderna’s approved Covid vaccine.(There are no approved mRNA-based flu shots.)

The trial, funded by Moderna, included more than 8,000 adults ages 50 and older who were enrolled in October and November 2023. For people ages 50 to 64, the new vaccine was compared to Moderna’s Covid vaccine and the flu shot Fluarix. For people 65 and older, it was compared to the Covid vaccine and a different flu shot, called Fluzone, which is a stronger dose typically given to older adults. The trial participants either got the existing shots, or the new combination vaccine plus a placebo shot. (This way, both groups got two injections.)

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

So... Whats this about covid shot causing heart problems? Propaganda or true?

I imagine having full COVID causes more heart and lung problems than the shot ever would.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 weeks ago

Yes.

It has reportedly caused myocarditis in some people, and they generally recover.

However:

for every 100 000 vaccinated, compared to about four more cases of myocarditis we have 56 fewer hospitalizations, 13.8 admissions to intensive care and 0.6 fewer deaths.

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC9653149/

[–] [email protected] 18 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

... unless you are in a country with a crazy antivaxxer at the helm of public health.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Well, fortunately they don't get to dictate the health policies of advanced nations.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago

That's what I'm most glad about.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) (4 children)

Side effects such as fever and chills were more common in people who got the new vaccine.

This caveat, glossed over in the article, is potentially a huge drawback.

Personally, the covid and flu shots by themselves make me feel icky but moderately functional for 24-36 hrs, but the time I had both at once I was practically bedridden for three days.

Obviously not everyone has this problem, but from what I've heard it's common enough that I worry if the two-in-one shot becomes the new standard it will turn a lot of folks off from vaccination altogether. There's enough vaccine hesitancy and skepticism out there already that a miserable reaction (or simply the need to clear your schedule for three whole days) could be enough to cause folks to indefinitely postpone their yearly booster or forgo vaccination altogether.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago

I find the Moderna vaccine in general (covid only) makes me feel worse than the Pfizer one. No idea why, but making it worse won’t prevent me from getting vaccinated, I’ll just get separate vaccines.

As long as people have choices, and they know what they are, it shouldn’t be a big deal. The problem will arise when people don’t know/have a choice and feel like crap when given the combo vax.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

only the og first covid made me feverish,achey, plus the pain from the vaccine. that lessened over time as you get more shots.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 weeks ago

Everyone reacts differently to different things. I know someone who's side effects were worse each Covid shot he got. He still got them, because he was taking care of an elderly family member, but he had to started planning to be bedridden himself. He's not antivax, but stopped getting boosters when the family member died because he didn't want to be laid up for a week at a time.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 weeks ago

Maybe try the vaccine from China. It does nothing

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

This caveat, glossed over in the article, is potentially a huge drawback. I've known people who have been floored after just one of the vaccines. Though I wonder if the body reacts differently to the combined than two singles.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 weeks ago

i mean the MMR-v and tdap have been in use for decades, which are vaccines of multiple viruses, antigens as one.

covid just illicit a stronger immune reaction, because of how newly humans encountered the coronavirus.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Does this mean we're still getting a flu shot this year in the US? Last I heard RFK cancelled everything for them

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 weeks ago

the current flu season is almost ending, i heard the next vaccine/season is around september

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 weeks ago

Not if the brain worms have anything to say about it

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