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Lots of bullshit details here.

China expert was in China for a whole 18 months as an anglo expat english teacher. expat english teachers are famously known to learn much about the cultures in which they live. in no way do most of them make mostly expat friends, go to expat bars and eat at western slop restaurants

First thing they noticed about China: the macdongles is different! Surely this offers some insight into the asian mind.

The difference: I'm sure we've all seen the old redditesque urban legend where someone's dad prides himself of not cleaning up after eating, because being a messy dickhead "creates jobs". apparently, the chinese are a whole nation of redditor dads, which is now a socialist virtue. because there's nothing more socialist than creating work by wasting people's time, especially in a country that could maybe hire people to reforest the desert or work in a solar cell factory.

personally, I don't eat at mcdangols, whether in china or elsewhere, but I use their toilets frequently so i've been inside their corporate-imperialist embassies many times. chinese maccy-eaters are in no way more messy than westerners.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 7 hours ago

This is kind of a restating of the apocryphal Friedman quote about how a work gang in China should use spoons instead of shovels if it's a jobs program. This seems to be the extent of western understanding of how Communism is supposed to work.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 8 hours ago

China isn't playing by capitalist rules

costanza-maoist That's correct Jerry! And you wanna' know why? marx-war

[–] [email protected] 8 points 8 hours ago

Maybe it is better to spread the wealth rather than just concentrate it at the complete top. It's not as if those people are contributing more to the production than those who are bussing the tables.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 8 hours ago

China isn’t playing by capitalist rules

What rules? Where is this rulebook that dictates the proper procedures for fast food restaurant cleanup under True Capitalism? Fucking libs always mistaking capitalism for some morality play.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 9 hours ago (3 children)

Imagine being in a place with ten thousand years of culinary traditions through dozens of cultures and still going to the McDonald's.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 hours ago

best food country in the world and they went to mcburg

macdong's in china has youtiao and soymilk though, so it's already better than western mac's. still, you'll get much better youtiao and soymilk and any morning market/breakfast joint

[–] [email protected] 13 points 8 hours ago

China has a very active restaurant culture. You usually eat out, for breakfast at least.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 8 hours ago

if they only went to mcdonald's, or if they were only there a few days, sure. but if you're somewhere for months and months you can probably sacrifice one meal to check out the local interpretation of something familiar.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

So this guy thinks that if you leave your tray on the table, no one's ever going to pick it up, ever? The smartest people in the world.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

the expectation here is that you bus yourself, we're not going to leave your trash on a table forever but we might spit in your burger next time.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 hours ago

That's how it is here too. Just put your thing in the rolly wagon as you leave.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 10 hours ago

if you shit on the floor someone will have to clean it up. good for the economy to shit on the floor. this increases gdp

[–] [email protected] 25 points 11 hours ago

Socialism is when you have a bus boy and the more bus boys you have the more socialist it is.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 11 hours ago

what's some of the stories you've heard? one i heard was there were no birds, because people were hunting them for food

[–] [email protected] 25 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

McDonalds in China is genuinely identical to McDonalds anywhere else in the world. Some people put their own trays away, some don't, someone is always going to be employed to deal with the latter.

However, I do think there's an interesting discussion to have on China's employment tactics, for example how huge numbers of especially older people fill low-wage jobs like street cleaning or security guarding, on a probably unnecessary scale, to ensure full-employment.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

oh being a 保安叔叔 is like a dream job, sitting in a little booth all day drinking tea, taking naps and getting to wear a cool cap.

ladies working as ayis have it worse though, that's a tough job for low pay. i've seen some ladies working as baoan though, it's not only uncles

[–] [email protected] 12 points 10 hours ago

Yeah, the baoan pay is dirt but they usually seem pretty content with their work. They're the best people to share a cigarette and practice some Chinese with.

i've seen some ladies working as baoan though, it's not only uncles

Weirdly younger women seem to work a lot of the metro security (theater) jobs, not true baoans but they fill the same role.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 12 hours ago

It's wild how someone could possibly misinterpret McDonalds playing at being a real restaurant with waitstaff in some countries where it can pretend to be a fancy foreign luxury brand instead of the absolute worst, bottom of the barrel fast food you can possibly find that it is in the US, as instead being a make-work program like some US states do with gas stations needing to have dedicated gas pumpers on the payroll.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

I didn’t clear the table at applebee’s and that why the west will fʌll

[–] [email protected] 16 points 12 hours ago

Thank u 4 creating jobs

[–] [email protected] 43 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago)

Here in America we do things much differently: You eat in your car and then "bus your tray" by throwing the bag of trash into the ditch on the side of the interstate. This is so that the enslaved people have something to do for their multiple consecutive life sentences.