If they weren't fascist sympathizers then I would feel a lot better about supporting them.
If saving lemmy means propping up .ml and their bigoted and fascist beleifs then, I'd rather see that baby and bathwater thrown out together
Meta community. Discuss about this lemmy instance or lemmy in general.
If they weren't fascist sympathizers then I would feel a lot better about supporting them.
If saving lemmy means propping up .ml and their bigoted and fascist beleifs then, I'd rather see that baby and bathwater thrown out together
Just to point out that the developer's Marxism is truly an irrelevant thing in all places that matter. Their efforts in software development are 99% more impactful to your life than their theoretical support of authoritarian regimes will ever be. And as bad as their denial of historical or current event might be, they're ultimately inconsequential. They're not in charge of foreign policy. They would never have an impact in Chinese internal politics. However them being Marxist at least ensures that they nominally have their ideology towards the right location in support for the disenfranchised instead of the rich. Even if like 50$ per month go to the .ml instance, it truly matters very little.
Honestly, people need to get some perspective on how much impact being a Marxist online has in the world. It has none. Marxists as a political force are mostly irrelevant no matter how eloquently they will try to claim global south revolutionary efforts as their own. Efforts in FOSS however is obviously very relevant and impactful.
PS: Yes, their statements on transgender people are problematic, but they seem to want to retract them. ~~Let's see.~~ EDIT: Welp
All that said, if you still can't bring yourselves to donate to lemmy devs because 0.1% of that might go towards the lemmy.ml hosting costs, you have no excuse to not donate to your own instance. Our donation buttons are on the main page and not only do you fund this instance, but also all the development efforts in tooling such as Threativore and Fediseer which are also FOSS.
This is my opinion, most people think nothing about not spending on a business that has right wing opinions, because they see them as harmful.
The developers of Lemmy and .ml are packaging arguably (for many, this is just an opinion) harmful rhetoric into their free platform at base with their moderation. The one developer that has tried to distance themselves from thar rhetoric, can't help but engage in it when pressed.
Frankly that's a fucking propoganda tool, and if throwing away .ml is throwing away Lemmy, then I hope someone forks the project and continues development without the baggage.
I'm not responsible for the developers shooting themselves in the foot with their opinions, that's on them!
Right - frankly I only have a dbzer0 account because I thought the general vibe was less factional than .world or sht.justworks, it's surprising me that so many people seem to be loosing the forest for the trees on this.
There are very few other FOSS projects that I use every single day, and I don't hesitate supporting any of them even though I have no idea what their personal views on worker liberation or trans rights are. I'm quite confident that I align more with the ML lemmy devs politically than most of the other FOSS project developers I interact with, and not because I agree with them on the use of state power or trans exclusion.
Anyway, Nutomic is saying there are support links you can donate through that do not go towards the ml server costs - I recommend anyone who's using lemmy and has an issue with the .ml political views donate through those instead of throwing the baby out with the bathwater by boycotting the platform they're enjoying.
I think it's worth it to put in a P.S.S. there now that ~~Des~~ nut basically said "sorry I got caught"
Like seriously this dude is a massive piece of shit, not because he's a Marxist-Leninist or a tankie or whatever; he's a transphobe. I hold him in the same regard as I hold Elon Musk at this point because the only real difference is I'm pretty sure ~~Des~~ nut doesn't have a trans daughter.
nutomic you mean?
Oh yeah I didnt even read his name my bad
Not until you do something about the tankies.