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    [–] [email protected] 5 points 4 weeks ago

    I want to like Nix. The idea of declarative managing is super appealing. But I just don't have the time. My dream is to leverage both worlds, a cloud native Nix based OS. Every time I sit down to plan that task it looks daunting though.

    [–] [email protected] 44 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

    Debian developer/user here. My marriage just works.

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    [–] [email protected] 97 points 4 weeks ago (9 children)

    she/her

    me, a broken man

    Some mixed signals here... she should double-check gender.nix

    [–] [email protected] 9 points 4 weeks ago

    I guess that's why the man is broken

    [–] [email protected] 63 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

    It is a copy of the Reddit post, I doubt these two accounts are the same https://www.reddit.com/r/NixOS/s/7zuK1ifOOo

    Either way it's just a funny post, nobody would actually go through such a hyper focus leaving their wife behind....

    ... right?

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    [–] [email protected] 17 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

    I believe it's because they're not using flakes properly. One of them is relying on an outdated channel, and ends up using outdated pronouns.

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    [–] [email protected] 30 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) (4 children)

    Arch User here btw.... she left me after pacman -Syu broke my system again. I think I was her with a Debian User.... Damn stable systems!

    [–] [email protected] 19 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

    Debian girl here. We may not have updated anything in 5 years but boy howdy are things stable or what.

    [–] [email protected] 12 points 4 weeks ago

    Tch... Who can live with packages that are more than a few days old!? All my packages are bleeding edge and there are only ~~minor~~ ~major~ version conflicts

    [–] [email protected] 12 points 4 weeks ago

    Debian here, it's true, I have both their wives

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    [–] [email protected] 16 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

    At some point talking to a NixOS user becomes impsb bc they have evt as alias n they spk in it

    [–] [email protected] 2 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

    Ok color me intrigued, what is evt? I googled a bit and didn't find anything

    [–] [email protected] 4 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) (2 children)

    Everything

    But yeah, being super personalised is the joke. I don't see many NixOS users typing out nixos-rebuild outside of making tutorials.

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    [–] [email protected] 31 points 4 weeks ago

    whispering into the void

    That's it, that's the problem. You talked to another distribution while still using the previous one. Yous lost your wife's trust, then it was over.

    [–] [email protected] 49 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

    Ummm...

    I use Arch btw πŸ™ƒ

    [–] [email protected] 33 points 4 weeks ago

    Take care of that dude's wife.

    [–] [email protected] 35 points 4 weeks ago (5 children)

    I'm a masochist, not only have I installed Arch from CLI several times, I've attempted running GPU passthrough to a Windows VM on several different distros just to play like 3 games that only run on Windows.

    I attempted this through a fresh build of Arch, 7800 XT for the Linux system and an RTX 3090 for the VM. Every attempt in hijacking the 3090 failed, refusing to not load the card on boot. I struggled with this for hours and days, and through multiple different distros, all while my gf pretended to understand what the fuck I was talking about. "Ok, honey, I'll be in the living room watching my shows."

    This went on for a while until I decided to give up and just build a second system dedicated for MichaelSoft Bindows.

    When my Plex server had a botched TrueNAS update, this effected her as well. Not only were there shows she was watching on there, but she had to endure a week of me copying my media from different drives to rebuild the server on every piece of storage I had in the apartment. I'd come home from work and immediately continue working on it. Computers left on overnight with little progress bars slowly filling up. She'd call me into the kitchen for dinner or ask me to come to bed at 1am when we both had to be up at 6am.

    She was actually supportive, maybe a little annoyed, but supportive nonetheless. Everything has now worked as intended for over a year and she even uses our home theater PC running Mint with no complaints or hiccups. Soon I will convince her to move her gaming PC to Linux as well, in due time though.

    [–] [email protected] 6 points 4 weeks ago
    [–] [email protected] 22 points 4 weeks ago

    Stay with her. Supporting you without understanding what the fuck it is you're doing is a huge green flag for a lasting relationship/marriage.
    Also, reflect on how you can give her the same support, with things where you don't know or understand her struggle.

    [–] [email protected] 11 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

    Soon I will convince her to move her gaming PC to Linux

    Soon you should convince her to marry you (if that's your thing)

    [–] [email protected] 9 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

    Already engaged πŸ‘ˆπŸ˜ŽπŸ‘ˆ

    [–] [email protected] 6 points 4 weeks ago

    Aww best wishes!

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    [–] [email protected] 2 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

    Running truenas and Plex is an lol

    [–] [email protected] 3 points 4 weeks ago (4 children)

    Care to explain? I run TrueNAS because it was the easiest for me to setup at the time. I'm not smart and it was a simple and free solution. Plex because Jellyfin wasn't where it is now, but also because again, I'm not smart and I have family outside my network use the server. Setting up wire guard and all that makes my brain hurt, let alone getting my mother to understand how to connect to Jellyfin.

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    [–] [email protected] 16 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

    I've used various flavors of Arch for years. I tried Nix and spent several hours failing to do anything - like table-stakes shit like installing packages.

    I went back to Arch.

    [–] [email protected] 2 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

    Did you try Nix (on Arch) or NixOS? For the latter, https://nixos.org/manual/nixos/stable/#sec-declarative-package-mgmt explains the basic installation.

    [–] [email protected] 1 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) (3 children)

    I clicked on the first link to the options appendix and noped right the fuck out.
    That's a level of involvement I reserve for activities where I either get paid 100€+/h, or otherwise support my family.

    And from what I hear, the main selling point of NixOS is how easy it is to reinstall.
    Which I don't do more than once every couple of years.
    And then I click "next" a bunch of times on Debian, and copy /home over from my backup.

    [–] [email protected] 2 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)
    [–] [email protected] -1 points 4 weeks ago

    I don't think I will.

    [–] [email protected] 3 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

    The ease of reinstalling is not the main selling point. That's just one of the (imho many) benefits of having a declarative reproducible configuration.

    Many people balk at the nix language, which i think isn't that hard to learn, But having to learn just one language/syntax instead of knowing each different application's config syntax is a huge plus for me. Plus you basically get a preprocessor for all configs, which certainly is nice.

    Now if you're not a software developer i can see why that would still be a roadblock. But honestly for a pretty straight forward setup, most of it you can just find on the wiki or other places.

    [–] [email protected] 6 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) (1 children)

    And from what I hear, the main selling point of NixOS is how easy it is to reinstall.

    Well, that isn't the first thing I'd mention, but whatever. Use whatever you're comfortable with.

    [–] [email protected] 1 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

    that isn't the first thing I'd mention

    ...well, what is? The logo looks nice.

    [–] [email protected] 5 points 4 weeks ago

    For me, the factors were:

    • the ability to split your system configuration into logical modules. Describe one logical thing in one file, no matter how many other factors are involved. Don't want that thing anymore? Just don't reference the module, and all changes will be reverted.
    • easily try out new configurations and roll back, regardless of underlying filesystem, without performance penalties.
    • the ability to put logic into your configuration (technically, there's no difference between what's typically referred to as configuration and a module in nix, though the latter usually has more "logic" and provides values with lower priority).
    • as a consequence, make modules transferable between systems. There's e.g. a Lanzaboote module that enables Secure Boot in a really smart way on NixOS, and the configuration is in my opinion easier than on any other Linux system.
    • the reproducibility, from which the "easy reinstallation" follows
    [–] [email protected] 8 points 4 weeks ago

    The way out is through

    [–] [email protected] 25 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

    Immutable distros are a great invention, and soon I'll be switching to one, once I figure out a couple of things.

    [–] [email protected] 8 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

    Immutables are too hard for me. I prefer the simplicity of apt.

    [–] [email protected] 2 points 4 weeks ago (4 children)

    That's one of those things I'm trying to figure out. They're actually a bit more complicated than your regular distro. They're not that bad, but my mind is not there yet. I need some time to dig into it and learn things. I'm definitely switching eventually.

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    [–] [email protected] 17 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

    Definitely enjoy using my computer and less managing my computer. Trying new things and tinkering is much more liberating with immutables.

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    [–] [email protected] 25 points 4 weeks ago

    my wife has endured so much waffle about how great nixos is

    i feel bad for her

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