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[–] [email protected] -4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

good message, but bad post:

  • climate has nothing to do with the rest
  • poverty existed pre-indistrialisation
  • poverty kills people in non-fascist organisations
    • fascists always promised to solve poverty (german fascism = "national socialism")
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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

selective pressure doesn't care if you consider it "survival of the fittest" or not.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago

Daddy didn't care

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

"social construct this social construct that" oh let me just critique poverty away since its not you know... a social reality...

Maybe climate science and evolution doesn't have that much to say about vocabulary of other disciplines.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Also, Darwin wrote a lot more about cooperation than competition. Competition is kinda the simplest aspect of evolution, but if you wanna understand (literally) the birds and the bees, you gotta talk about the development of mutually-beneficial systems.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 week ago (1 children)

A lot of the big evolutionary milestones are cooperative. An impossibly long time ago, a big cell swallowed a little cell and (for whatever reason) did not digest it. Together they accomplish more than either cell could on their own. That symbiosis is the ancestor to practically every multicellular organism you can find. Being multicellular is itself another huge development in cooperative evolution. Predation and competition may make a hide tougher or a tooth longer, but cooperation is what really pushes the boundaries of what is biologically possible.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It is quite odd how many people say evolution is a liberal hoax yet are full throated social darwinists.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago

That's because capitalism was created by God to ~~reward the faithful~~ punish the wicked. /s

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Is this an actual thing those researchers say? I've never heard a person with higher education saying shit like this.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)

In the same way that climate deniers think they know what they're talking about because they have an elementary school-level understanding of the weather, flat earthers think they know what they're talking about because they have an elementary school-level level understanding of physics, and antivaxxers think they know what they're talking about because they have an elementary school-level understanding of medicine, social darwinists think they know what they're talking about because they have an elementary school-level understanding of evolution. They heard "survival of the fittest" and were convinced that's all the nuance there was to have about the topic.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago

Well, exactly, that sort of social Darwinism is just so antiscientific and also generally antisocial I don't think a person with any self-awareness in a remotely serious academic context could put it to paper. I've seen it online, yes, but that's not what OP tweet is addressing...

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Poverty is caused by a lack of money, and money isn’t real. Well, not really real.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Money is a type of private property. Private property is an arrangement of power relationships, and those are real. It's real that you'll get evicted if you don't find a way to pay rent/mortgage.

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[–] [email protected] 47 points 1 week ago (2 children)

The ironic thing about social darwinist types that want to cut any support for the poor on the grounds of poverty being some kind of proof of not being fit to survive, is that the same types will likely also object to things like labor unions or other means of large groups of poorer people banding together to collectively force better conditions from the wealthy, despite social cooperation being a common and successful enough evolutionary strategy.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago

"natural resource shortage you fascist" is really difficult to say : D

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Well, I guess it'll be funny when all the lower classes die off and the rich have to eat eachother to survive.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I think groups of lower classes will likely murder the rich and take their shit long before the rich have to think about eating each other.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Yes, that’s the plot of HG Wells’ The Time Machine. The rich evolve into beautiful but helpless and mindless little doll-people. The poor evolve into ugly, cunning, mechanically-inclined troglodyte people who hunt and feast on the doll-people.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago

It's been a while since I've read the Time Machine but I'm pretty sure the Morlocks didn't hunt the Eloi so much as trained them to head underground for slaughter when they heard air raid sirens. Maybe I'm remembering the old timey movie more than the book.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago

Maybe we can convince them to go hide in their bunkers sooner rather than later, then we just concrete them in and forget about them

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