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As a moderator myself, it's a pretty thankless job. It's a bit like being a politician in that no matter what you do, there are lots of people that are going to hate you.
Alas, not everyone on the fediverse is so friendly and welcoming towards people who "express certain political views" by using a position of power to suppress those they disagree with.
I'm having trouble parsing your sentence. Do you mean that the mods/admins of fosstodon were using their position of power to suppress anyone?
That is what their mod was accused of having done, albeit on reddit. If Kev believes those allegations to be unfounded, he's done a poor job of expressing that.
That is what their mod was accused of having done
He was accused of lots of things. But was there any concrete evidence of that? All I saw was a comment from reddit where he said something stupid.
It's not as if I did an exhaustive search to sift through all the evidence, but what I found was this: https://lemm.ee/post/60365167
Thank you. I wouldn't take it hard evidence of anything, but I did miss the part where he was actually a mod on Reddit as well.
Feel like Im missing a lot of context.
AFAIK, it goes something like this:
- One moderator from fosstodon is not 100% aligned to the prevailing ideology on Fedi.
- Someone on Mastodon found "bad" posts from said moderator.
- The mob went on to presume that someone that is not 100% aligned to their prevailing ideology is unfit to be considered human - let alone a moderator - so they went after the admins.
- The admins claimed to have reviewed said mod actions, didn't find anything out of the ordinary, but still got rid of them.
- Regardless of actions and reactions, the mob now successfully tainted the name and reputation of the instance.
- Less-principled users of fosstodon are now just leaving the instance, for fear of being associated with them.
- One of fosstodon's admins (the author of the blog post) is now saying "Screw you guys, I'm going ~~home~~ to Bluesky"
EDIT: There's more to it. Seems like said mod is also active on Reddit (https://lemm.ee/post/60365167)
- One moderator from fosstodon is not 100% aligned to the prevailing ideology on Fedi.
For clarity's sake, the views the mod expressed were:
- Calling criticism of Mahmoud Khalil's arrest and transfer to Louisiana "yellow journalism" for using the phrase "disappeared"
- Defending the striking down of a school privacy policy that requires teachers get consent from LGBTQ+ kids before outing them to their parents
- Removing posts about surveillance of LGBTQ+ people in r/privacy for contradictory or unexplained reasons
- The mob went on to presume that someone that is not 100% aligned to their prevailing ideology is unfit to be considered human - let alone a moderator - so they went after the admins.
Is all criticism now a "mob" just because they don't want people with anti-immigrant and anti-LGBTQ+ views to have the power to censor others?
- The admins claimed to have reviewed said mod actions, didn't find anything out of the ordinary, but still got rid of them.
From what I saw, the admins actually said that they were fine with keeping him on the moderation team and the mod deleted their own accounts
- Less-principled users of fosstodon are now just leaving the instance, for fear of being associated with them.
Are they? The most I saw was that people were considering leaving because other instances were going to start blocking Fosstodon
What is with the concealing and downplaying of the mod's views and then exaggerating the "outrage" of the "mob"? Yes the Fediverse can be drama-prone but most of the fanning of the flames seems to be coming from the people complaining about Fedi users genuine criticisms of the mods/admins on Fosstodon
I don't think it's unreasonable to remove mod privileges for these kinds of views if you're trying to run an inclusive space. There's supported suspicion that they've used their mod powers to censor information on minorities already, just because they haven't done it yet on this platform doesn't mean you let them lie in wait to do it. Makes me worry that Fosstodon admins don't see any issues keeping someone like that around
Would this get the same kind of backlash had the mod been kicked out for tankie views?
- The admins claimed to have reviewed said mod actions, didn't find anything out of the ordinary, but still got rid of them.
My understanding was that this mod's accounts disappeared from everywhere (including Reddit), not just Fosstodon. So, I think they deleted their accounts themselves to avoid the backlash or something.
So, the usual "on the Fediverse you shalln't be anything less than immaculately perfect" crap?
there's a difference between not being perfect and supporting outing trans children.
Yet the mob not only punishes for the former, but does it so instance-wide, needlessly tarnishing the reputation of normal users of the instance while the admins moderated that problem on their own.
Punishing people by transitivity only gets communities so far.
Some kind of mod drama
In recent days, there has been a minor furor across the fediverse related to one of the moderators at fosstodon
From the link in the link