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I haven't been able to find one. Using Zorin OS which is GNOME.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago
[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago
[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Please explain why you need that in the post.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Average linux help post, someone comes along saying "why do you need that" instead of being helpful lol

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

And you know if I had actually given an answer he would have just told me why his way of doing things is better.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 8 months ago

Most of the time it is to avoid xyproblem.info

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Stop fucking asking people to justify their use case, when they want something that clearly exists elsewhere.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 months ago (1 children)

It matters because Linux is different in everything, how drivers are loaded, what components can be restarted etc.

It may not be needed or it may, and people are throwing in random solutions while the problem is not clear

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

It's a horrible kludge of a feature that fixes weird problems. That's gonna be true regardless of OS, and regardless of which exact problems OP has.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I'm not sure that's true in a lot of linux use cases. Linux and windows handle drivers very differently. There are a lot of graphics problems which have nothing to do with the driver, and when they do it's usually wrong driver instead of driver acting up

[–] [email protected] -3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Then OP will find out this isn't something they need.

You should still answer the question, instead of questioning the question.

It is infuriating how every technical question has to be justified, as if 'why do you want that?' is always a relevant and wise question. Even though it's omnipresent, effortless, and adds literally nothing by itself.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

"I want to get rid of my hair, how do I shave my hair on Linux"

"Why do you want to get rid of your hair?"

'Because when I didnt have sissors before on Windows, I always shaved it to have it not annoy me"

"But now that you have sissors, why not just cut it"?

[–] [email protected] -3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Making up a stupid analogy totally excuses the million derailed threads where someone genuinely just needs something you don't.

Stop letting your ignorance prevent them from solving their ignorance. Answer the goddamn question, first. Feel free to snit at them - after.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

The answer is "i dont know why you need this, this is probably not possible in linux and have another way, but it is important what scenario makes you want to do that to give the right answer".

People dont just restart their Graphics driver for fun.

And please stop harassing me.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

A conversation is not harassment. You are choosing to continue having it.

I know OP was trying to kludge some weird problem - that is why I said as much, yesterday. People don't ask how to restart their graphics driver for fun.

They need help. "But why do you want that?" almost never helps. It is help prevention. It is where tech support threads end bitterly. Try 'here's the answer, please don't,' then doing the thing you did.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

But you tell them how to disable and reenable their graphics driver, then xorg crashes, their problem isn't solved and they give up. This question is "what is the problem you are trying to fix?"

That answer will help someone more than giving them an answer that won't fix anything

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

But asking it often results in neither answer.

Third time: by all means, ask the question AFTER a direct answer. A direct answer absolves any too-clever "X/Y problem" philosophizing. And obviously people would love to just not have the problems they're trying to kludge.

But that's not what they came here to ask for.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

by all means, ask the question AFTER a direct answer

As original commenter pointed out, by the time they commented there were 12 direct answers to the question, none of which were likely to solve any problems. I think you're qualifying your statement after the fact to regain ground

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

What a dishonest reading of the chronology of this conversation.

And a hypocritical effort to make about us, instead of about the subject.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 8 months ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

Doesn't that kill X11?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago

I think on some distros this is disabled by default. I have forgotten how you can re-enable it.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Maybe sudo systemctl restart gdm? That's not quite the same as it restarts gnome display manager.

When your computer freezes and you can't get to a tty with Ctrl+alt+F4 then it likely encountered a kernel panic. A panic is not recoverable. In some senerios I've seen the amdgpu module run into a kernel oops which is recoverable. It doesn't really effect the desktop other than a studder as the kernel reinitializes in the background.

If your system is freezing start by checking RAM and then try a different GPU. Its likely a hardware issue

[–] [email protected] 17 points 8 months ago (3 children)

Is that function a niche thing? I've never needed it and don't know anybody who has... What are some situations where it might need to be used?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

exactly my thought

[–] [email protected] 7 points 8 months ago (2 children)

I have a case. My PC at work is a HP Celeron PC. For some reason the Intel HD drivers go nuts in Office and the whole ribbon just turns black. That spreads to all other applications and makes every signel menu bar just a black rectangle. The only solution to this is to restart the driver. No driver or windows update could fix it.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago (1 children)

If no drivers or windows update could fix it, are you sure it's not a hardware issue? What you describe sounds similar to bad VRAM symptoms.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago

Happens only in Office. No other program has ever triggered it. So it's either Intel or HP or Windows, but since it is the lowest offering of hardware and software, probably a combination of all 3.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I think the question is, is it needed in your favourite Linux distro?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I guess not, since you would need GPU drivers in the first place /s

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

Linux has different drivers so the issue may be fixed. Oh and avoid using Wayland on that GPU. In case it fails all unsaved data will be lost

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