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submitted 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]
 

after what happened with yuzu emu, im done...

EDIT: This post is a joke! It was posted in /c/memes, of course it is going to be a meme! If you consider this news, please re-evaluate your choice of sources.

At the same time, I think it says something about Nintendo that some actually believed this...

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[–] [email protected] -1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

I strongly suggest that tere needs to be some enforcement by the mods on which formatting should be used for memes. @[email protected] @[email protected]

[–] [email protected] 9 points 8 months ago

Clearly the father made a lot of money off that social media post. Nintendo is only trying to protect its IP!

[–] [email protected] 7 points 8 months ago

I get my Nintendo fix via Super Tux and Super Tux Cart

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Nintendo gets to do this (the Yuzu shit) because so many other developers have stopped making anything except slot machines.

[–] [email protected] 157 points 8 months ago (7 children)

I can't believe there's people in here that don't understand that this is a joke.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago

You know sometimes jokes fall flat

[–] [email protected] 7 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

And I can't believe that there are people like you who still underestimate how gullible people can be.

[–] [email protected] -4 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Despite understanding that it's a joke, i don't think that it's a meme This is just a picture of text joke

[–] [email protected] 10 points 8 months ago

This is just a picture of text joke

I think you just described every "meme" I've ever seen.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

You've been banned from /memes

[–] [email protected] 78 points 8 months ago

The fact it's almost believable is both real and a serious problem.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 8 months ago

Not even a good joke either, it's like Facebook tier memeing

[–] [email protected] 39 points 8 months ago (1 children)

It's so close to reality that I'll forgive it :P

[–] [email protected] 17 points 8 months ago (1 children)

LOL oh come on. I loved Yuzu a lot, and what they did to Bowser is fucked, but this is not all close to anything Nintendo has done.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Wait what did who do to bowser??

I live under a rock.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 8 months ago

They've made him lose to Mario countless times!

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago

He's been fired. He's in talks with Sony now.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago
[–] [email protected] -2 points 8 months ago

I don't have to boycott since their products already suck.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I hope the ChatGPT and its siblings bring about the end of copyright. Unfortunately it's more likely we'll pervert the idea of personhood yet again and claim these things are people same as was done with corporations.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)

Happily an anarchist but also an artist, and I'm wondering why a complete lack of copyright would be a good thing.

Scenario A: I make a cool thing, it catches on, corpos with gajillions of dollars legally make tons of money off of it and leave me unable to pay rent and taking zero credit despite me doing all the actual work.

Scenario B: I make a cool thing, it catches on. It gets ripped off by everyone freely, and I'm left unable to pay rent and taking zero credit despite doing all the hard work. In fact, everyone who feels like it claims it as their own. I have zero recourse. This is all legal.

Scenario C: I'm a scuzzbag, so I copy-paste everyone else's hard work onto various merch without their permission, pirate their software, make lots of money, cheat them out of the fruits of their labor. Except it's all legal woo!

Scenario D: ChatGPT and its ilk have front-loaded all the theft, so now ripping off artists is transparently accessible to anyone who wants to pop in some "prompts" and claim they're so creative. Hard-working artists are mocked as obsolete because their efforts were scraped and stolen. They struggle to pay rent and take no credit.

I hate copyright abuse (i.e Disney) as much as everyone else, but I also feel like the champions of "abolish copyright" want everything for free because they don't make anything themselves, and creative efforts are just that: effort.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 8 months ago
[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 months ago (1 children)

All of the scenarios occur today. Every single one of them.

You do see that, right?

Artistry predates copyright law.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Those things happen, and unfortunately the law as it stands is stacked against "the little guy", but I still struggle to understand how "Just let everyone rip each other off and it's not even wrong anymore" while forced to survive a hustle-or-die economy, would be a beneficial development.

Artistry predates the industrial revolution and industrialized commercial artmaking as well...so...? It'll just be a hobby? But only a hobby reserved for the ultra rich because everyone else who would have otherwise done it are to busy working for someone else?

I'm serious here. I'm training really hard as an artist, and being completely unable to pursue ANY recourse against theft seems like it wouldn't improve anyone's lives at all...except maybe the fan communities of particularly-litigious entertainment giants...

If someone just starts mass producing "This thing in MonkeMischief's style", why the heck would anybody bother in the first place? As if alienation, depression, and struggle to find meaningful expression weren't abundant enough these days already...

I've still yet to get a response that explains how it would all get better. Just "lol you're wrong and should feel bad."

I get it, using stuff unrestricted for free is lots of fun, but making profit from it when someone else made that thing feels pretty lame...

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I don't know what to tell you that could satisfy your internal struggle here. If you have a style worth stealing it will be stolen. Copyright doesn't protect that.

For what copyright does protect, it is only enforceable if you have the funds to protect it.

The system wasn't designed for people like you, it was literally designed during the same time in which only the wealthy were able to peruse art. It was created to protected monied interests, not the commoner.

If you expect to make a living on your art, you need to plan to collect earnings up front. Commissioned work is exactly that.

This idea that you're going to create some initial idea and then coast on it for life does not align with any reality.

Sometimes, if you create something new and interesting, you'll end up with a following and they will fund your endeavors but there will still be copycats and you either waste your life perusing that or spend your life perusing your art. You cannot do both. Paying someone else to peruse your "rights" doesn't change this equation, you'd be creating to fund the protection. Enforce it too hard and your fans will turn on you, as the original post here illustrates.

There is no winning move via copyright that leads to the land of riches. That's the problem. That's what copyright is bullshit.

It's not designed to protect us but so long as the monied interests can convince us otherwise, we'll go along with it like temporarily embarrassed millionaires. Always convinced if we'd play the game too, we could win.

The system is rigged and it's not in your favor. Whatever appears to favor you is a facade meant of not to keep you playing the game.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago

Sincerely, thank you for explaining this perspective. You make a lot of really good points!

You're right that it's a mess out there and stuff will always get stolen. And no, I never expect to coast on anything for a lifetime, but I still think if we were to abolish copyright as it stands, there should still be something enforceable that benefits creators of works.

One who publishes a book or a game should accept piracy as a reality, but having zero recourse for say, anybody uploading your exact work a dozen times on Steam under their own names would be pretty terrible wouldn't it?

If it were abolished out in the open, yeah, we'd basically need to not have to earn money anymore. Otherwise, there would simply be no point to anybody making anything.

We're already seeing such a threat from un-checked ML scraping everything in existence.

Thank you so much for the valuable discourse. I hope you have an awesome day :).

(P.S: I think you meant "pursue" rather than "peruse")

[–] [email protected] 29 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Per Snopes:

What's True

A child in Venezuela made a cardboard Nintendo Gameboy to play a home-made version of Super Mario Bros.

What's False

However, Nintendo did not send a cease-and-desist letter to this child, nor did the company sue his family for $200 million.

A picture with some text is not a news source. Boycott Nintendo for good reasons.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)

This is a joke referencing Nintendo suing an emulator developer. It should not be considered news. The money amount is even the same.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 8 months ago (1 children)

This meme's older than the latest yuzu thing. I'm pretty sure I saw it on reddit, and I haven't been there in months. Nintendo's been like this forever.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

It is, but this one is a reference to Yuzu, you can tell by the money. Previously it was $200 million, where as Yuzu settled for $2.5m

[–] [email protected] 7 points 8 months ago

Oops, I'm slow on the uptake. Thanks.

[–] [email protected] 47 points 8 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 14 points 8 months ago

Yeah my bad, went right over my head.

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