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Dont dare talk about communist crimes, cause capitalism murders like 10 million people a day. A day! No you can't see any proof and you wouldn't understand russian anyway if I did. Kill all landlords. T. Didn't finish highschool and get fired from mcdonalds every 3 months.
It turns out all countries have an authoritarian desire and like to do horrible stuff to their civilians. At any point in time some may be better than others. But all of the problems stem from the same root problem of power. It's a human thing and it's unavoidable. Something that citizens will always need to fight against.
Tankies love to gloss over the fact the US is way more democratic than China despite recent events.
The two party system is an illusion of choice...the same parasite has hands in both socks
In America police violence is shown on tv and presented as a good thing actually, in china it's not on tv.
And if you talk about police violence in China the police come to your house and tell you to stop.
If you don't stop you and your family dissappear.
Well the USA doesn't have Execution Vans yet if we're comparing.
Ok wow I bet those are coming here soon
We still have police in vans running around executing people with guns. I think we should really stop splitting hairs and just settle on both police forces being authoritarian death cultists.
Looks like universal Monk has a new alt.. or is it noted sociopath linkerbaans alt?
Damn linkerbaan, now there's a name I haven't heard in a while.
Thank God
They made tankie 196? Gross.
tankie-inclusive chaser central
honestly im glad someone has called it out, the US is BAD and China is also BAD but with highspeed rail and some better ideas along the way which is tbf GOOD. and if we are criticising everyone i want to know why rent and housing is so unaffordable in most of europe and why landleeches can reap. i also want to know why the hell life is worse for women in so many countries, looking at you india, iran and others. problems dont go away because u ignore them and yes sometimes less bad or least worst is progress too but we must strive for the best hard enough that if we fail to hit it we achieve at least good.
Yeah dictatorships are good if they build a train
Infrastructure Investment is an indicator of good governance... Us just provide straight cash transfer to our parasites and we get nothing in return beyond being priced gouged by industries we subsidize
Individuals are far too complex to be 100% anything, so the same applies to the added complexity of a state.
The state is 100% something. It's 100% useless and harmful. source: https://anarchistfaq.org/afaq/sectionB.html#secb2 and https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-1PV02IzWpo
"OUR fair and just police vs THEIR brutal murderer cops"
They should learn that ACAB means "ALL cops are bastards", not "All cops in the US and not my beloved infallible glorious prc"
I vote for politicians that want certain laws.
Those laws become fact. Cops enforce them.
Why would they be a bastard?
I'mma be honest. I have never had a single interaction with a cop in Belgium. They just walk around sometimes.
You are spoiled by living in Belgium. Most countries outside of Europe have good awful corrupt police.
I fully agree
Generally it would be when they choose to selectively enforce those laws to unjustly do things to people they don't like.
If that doesn't happen where you are, count yourself very, very lucky.
They can't do that when those laws don't exist to begin with.
People are pretty protected. But now this issue:
E bikes have been surging the country, theft has increased as well. These bikes have a tracker in them.
It locates into a certain neighbourhood, later on it will be more precise.
But people can just deny entrance, so cops (along with the owner) can't just go and look around.
Now, this is pretty digitalised eh, the tracker from a third party shows the bike is there. So the owner would really like it if they could just get the bike for him.
I would vote so that they can just go grab these bikes. Get it over with. Cops entering homes wouldn't be bastards then.
Obvious issue: can just put a stolen bike in the neighborhood, have citizen give permission to look for the stolen bike quickly. They enter the house. Plant some evidence. Blablabla.
But still, I want e bikes to be promoted. Theft to be lowered. There need to be solutions.
Without artificial scarcity created by capitalism theft wouldn't be a problem. Just let abundance of bikes and even if someone steals it you can always borrow another one.
Belgium has 250k euros median net wealth. High minimum wage. High social mobility. Tax funded education from age 3 to end of higher education.
Cheap public transport.
The e bikes are paid by your taxes when you have a job.
Young guys steal because they like risk and lack respect
High social mobility.
You got suace for this claim?
My understanding is that Belgium is highly stratified society with certain groups enjoying very high quality of living while out groups not having access to good jobs
Ok, so why can't you just take another bike?
My job requires me to be trustworthy. If I get caught stealing a bike, even though they won't do much, it might get on crime record. Whenever I look for a new job, I will need to give them my crime record and explain myself.
If I, at age 29, am stealing bikes. Then I am just worthless scum.
If it's a 19 year old jobless guy who is still studying and living with his parents, then it's more acceptable. Even though this kid will be viewed with caution by future employers.
We could likely implement city bikes funded by taxes and have them all over the city. Have trackers in them and punish people who hoard/sell them.
There's already a private option for that, costs like 2 euros per day. But it doesn't seem that popular.
Most people enjoy having their own bike, with premium material.
My bike is 9700 euros. Of course people will want to steal it. They either don't know the consequences or think it won't matter.
My job requires me to be trustworthy. If I get caught stealing a bike, even though they won't do much, it might get on crime record. Whenever I look for a new job, I will need to give them my crime record and explain myself
Sorry by "take" i didn't mean "steal", I'm not telling you to steal a new bike if you don't want to lol
My bike is 9700 euros. Of course people will want to steal it.
Again, theft wouldn't be a problem in a moneyless society, since all bikes have the same value and everyone has an access to those bikes, not like in our society where a more costly and less available bike is more valued and therefore entices people to steal.
What's the largest amount of people that tried this moneyless stateless society stuff and how long did it last
Ussr was state capitalist, north Korea is Kim's paradise. Cuba is state capitalist. China is capitalist.