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Hello folks. I use many distro from Debian to Fedora to OpenSuse and Arch. I also use many window managers like i3, dwm and qtile. On desktop environment, I use XFCE the most. Currently, I am looking to try something new, hence KDE.

I am looking for something with a beautiful UI and works out of the box. So, something on the same spectrum as XFCE but more pretty.

I tried out the distros with preinstalled KDE: Fedora KDE, Manjaro KDE, Kubuntu.

The good: KDE is beautiful and very easy to use. I actually enjoy using my computer more.

The bad: it crashes.. a lot even when I turn off all the animations. My system is not that slow: AMD 7 Pro with 64 GB of RAM. Some examples:

  • Logging in, KDE hangs for 30 seconds. Even when I finally see the desktop, I would need to wait a further 10 seconds to finally able to interact, i.e. click and open stuff.

  • After resume suspend, system would hang and there is nothing I can do except for a forced reboot.

  • Browsing the web with only 3 tabs opened, KDE also hang.

As much as I hate GNOME, everything just works. I installed the GNOME flavors of above distros and never experience any hiccups.

If KDE works for you, do you use a preinstalled distro and which one? How about if you install KDE from scratch, like Arch?

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

KDE Manjaro running on 4 or 5 of my machines, pure stability. It sounds like a hardware issue.

Here are my suggestions to diagnose this.

Option 1. Setup an ssh server, connect from a second computer (or phone via Termux), execute $journalctl -fe, and observe the journal from your second device when the crash occurs. That should help pinpoint the issue.

Option 2. If you don't have a second device, use a non-gui tty, access via Ctrl+Alt+F1. (Usually terminals are available F1 thru F6). Once again execute $journalctl -fe and observe it during the crash.

Tbh option 2 may just be easier especially if you have minimal knowledge of ssh. Good luck, ping me back if you find this helpful and would like more perspective, and apologies if this doesn't help you.

If the entire computer crashes, boot into a terminal and browse journalctl history of previous boots, sorry I don't have these commands off the top of my head but if you need them and ask I will get them for you.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

I have non of the issue on my Starlite (Kubuntu)

My PC with the newest Arch Linux seems to have sometimes issues with sleep and freezing on waking up. (Intel CPU + AMD GPU)

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Give Cinnamon/Budgie a shot, (I recommend in a vm and see which one you like)both are based on gnome(cinnamon personally its like a combination between gnome 3 ane xfce).
I have the same experience with kde personally(Like it crashes sometimes,looks dated,etc it didnt crash that badly for me), and I decided to desktop hop to Cinnamon.

Yes I have Nvidia

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

I use it daily and it occasionally may crap out, but it may happen maybe once every few weeks. Can't comment about GPU and the likes as I only have an Intel iGPU which works just fine.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I don't like it, too much desk space wasted on useless crapola. I use Mate, a nice clean desktop with a simple pull-down menu leaving the majority of the space free for work.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago

KDE lets the user customize how much desk space is wasted on "useless crapola".

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Look at the reddit called "unixporn" and search for Xfce. You ll see what's possible with Xfce. For me the KDE crashes are a dealbreaker. My Xfce setup is so simplified, that nothing can be ugly. I use Bspwm for the windows and stripped down Xfce panel (dont touch third party status bars, such as polybar, its waste of time if you already have Xfce). No menu such as Whisker menu, but Rofi instead. I got Xfce stability without the old looking.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago

I've used it on Endeavour for about a year and on Tumbleweed for eight years before that with no real problems other than plasma-shell occasionally restarting. I have Nvidia and the open drivers.

[–] [email protected] 43 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Those aren't normal issues.
It sounds more like a driver or hardware issue which may only pop up in KDE (Wayland) and not in your other WMs (X11).
As a first step, try logging into the KDE (X11) Session and see if it still happens.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago

I use Fedora KDE, and I don't think ive ever seen crashes that bad on my system (AMD CPU and GPU). I used to have a small problem with RADV crashing during video playback, but that solved itself after a few updates.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 week ago

For what it's worth, I experience none of that. My laptop is absolutely rock solid with KDE, it's like a MacBook you pull it out of your backpack and it's ready to go before I'm even done opening the screen.

My desktop is currently just over 5 days of continuous uptime (no sleep). I've crashed more often because of ZFS than KDE.

Both are ArchLinux. I also have a friend on Bazzite that doesn't have issues with KDE either, and it runs great in my VM.

Those all sound like possible graphics driver issues.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

If KDE works for you, do you use a preinstalled distro and which one?

Has largely worked fine for me on Tumbleweed.

There is/was an issue with launching some of the 'K' apps causing the desktop to hard lock. But this happens very rarely.

Haven't experienced problems like what you're describing though.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

Been using Tumbleweed as well. May I ask if you encountered these 2 issues:

  1. Copy 1Gb movie to flash drive, says it's done in 10 seconds. Try to remove the flash drive, still in use. Turns out it's actually still copying.
  2. Send some files, whatever the size, even 10Mb, to the trash and it takes a minute per file.

Stumbled upon some github issues saying that it's a longstanding problem (since 2009 even), but I can't believe that people put up with it for so long without fixing it.

I'm not even thinking of changing DE but this is annoying to say the least.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)
  1. Copy 1Gb movie to flash drive, says it's done in 10 seconds. Try to remove the flash drive, still in use. Turns out it's actually still copying.

This is not distro related but GNU/Linux and a known "issue" for over decades ! Everything gets into you ram memory and gets dumped from there into your USB storage device.

watch grep -e Dirty: -e Writeback: /proc/meminfo

A long term solution would like to write a udev rule something like here:

https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/771398/solving-the-usb-drive-mass-storage-stall-issue

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Thanks! I'll try that out today!

Why quotation marks? Issue is an issue, decades or days old. 😄

Copying mechanism itself isn't an issue here; false reporting that something is done when it's not is.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Been using Tumbleweed as well. May I ask if you encountered these 2 issues:

Haven't experienced either of those issues. Have you tried to isolate KDE in those cases? Not sure how you'd do it with the deletion because there's no Trash for the terminal, but you could try the copy operation and see if your device is still blocked when it's finished in the terminal?

Those are both file operations so they don't strike me as strictly DE-related.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Thanks for the info.

I tried installing PCManFM-Qt and deleting from there. Works as you'd expect, deletes instantly.

Having [email protected] insight in mind that it's a decades long issue, I don't get how come that some of us are affected by it and some aren't. 😅

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

I’ve been using it on two older systems (4-8 y) one without a ssd or graphics card and it works flawlessly. As others suggested maybe you check your graphics drivers. I used to have problem with kde some time ago but since coming back it’s been nothing but smooth sailing.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Is KDE actually good or it is overrated?

That's like a trick question 😀
If I say it's good, and that contradicts your own experience with it, you can say "see it's overrated, people say it's good, but in fact I know it sucks."

I use it on Arch but I've seen people using it on Fedora and it looked good and stable.

Did you try to look into it, see what's causing the problems?
In my experience having used Linux and KDE Plasma for about a decade now, if you wanna have a good time you're going to have to figure stuff out, check the logs, troubleshoot, look it up online, etc.
If you expect to go through different distros to find one that "just works" you'll be disappointed, and you'll be wasting your time. Issues can be hardware-specific, maybe you just need to pass a parameter to the kernel, or change a config somewhere or something like that...

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 week ago

I've been using Debian with KDE Plasma for over a decade and I can count the crashes with the fingers of one hand.

[–] [email protected] 43 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Do you have an nvidia GPU? It's the most important thing to know.

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