Canada

I get what you're saying, and as a med hopeful that would be my dream, but the result would be an undesirable salary for Canadian doctors. They'd simply move to the States and make literally hundreds of thousands more. Not to mention that doctors have massive amounts of debt from school, as well as large overhead costs when running practices.

From what I understand Doctors and Dentists that immigrate into Canada have a hard long road of needing to be "recertified". This means extensive money spent going back to university for a few years prior to even being able to work in the field or even open their own practice.

A family friend was a dentist overseas with his own practice he ran for years, it took him years to be "recertified" like many other dentists coming to Canada. He spent thousands of dollars in fees alone.

His wife was a dentist as well but ended up not going through the process when they moved as money was tight for both of them. Instead she had opted to recertify as a dentil hygienist.

Both are amazing in dentistry and IMO are better dentists than the few different practices I have been through in my life. So good that I travel 2 hours to go specifically to their practice.

Paying more will attract more. We train plenty now but they all go where doctoring is most lucrative, which is not Ontario.

I kind of understand what they're saying, that they too are losing ground vs inflation, but I agree with you, it's pretty hard to empathize. Especially when they say stupid stuff like, "I'm sorry, 2.8 per cent is a bagel and coffee," and, "I got a haircut yesterday and it cost me $40."

My doctor started handing off the fees to his patients. You want a skin tag removed? 50 bucks. You want a sick note? 50 bucks. Alternatively, you can pay for a subscription of like 200 dollars a year or something to cover all of those electives.

It's stupid. What happened to "do no harm"? I guess it doesn't count when it's financial harm.

I pay my fucking taxes. Allot them correctly so I don't have to double pay my physicians because you've decided to allocate taxes to nonsense bullshit instead of core social welfare programs.

Fuck ~~Rob~~ Doug Ford and the Cons. They're bleeding the healthcare system dry so they can claim it's a failure and privatize it. They spend more money subsidizing private clinics and hospitals than actually funding the regular ones.

I would argue nursing staff, physiotherapists, mental health workers, dietitians, etc need more of a pay raise. They're often working in the same settings and at least as many hours in hospitals and family health clinics but paid a small fraction of doctora' wages despite tons of schooling.

Unfortunately, Canada has always had an issue of doctors leaving to the USA due to better pay there. Although I have little sympathy for them given how much they're already earning, I'd rather them have an inflated salary than corporate bailouts, governmental beurocratic inefficiencies, CEOs, etc so I'll live with it.

Edit: also because the alternative is moving to a private system where you can be certain they'll be overpaid, but healthcare will be categorically worse.