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Apparently, Ukrainian drones pushed through and started a chain reaction.

Explosions reportedly continued for hours, and authorities evacuated nearby settlements. Initial reports indicate that the site, previously protected by one of Russia’s densest air defense networks, suffered catastrophic damage.

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[–] [email protected] 37 points 1 day ago
[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 day ago (4 children)

What, like, percent of stored munitions would this likely be? How impactful of a destruction is it?

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 day ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 89 points 1 day ago

This fucking rules. Eat poo, Shittin.

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[–] [email protected] 177 points 1 day ago (12 children)

I'm pretty sure competent militaries store their munitions in networks of dozens if not hundreds of earthen bunkers per site, specifically so shit like this can't happen.

264 kilotons is a fuckload of bombs.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 1 day ago

Assuming I'm looking at the right thing on google maps, it does seem to be a lot of earthen bunkers with berms separating them. There are also quite a few free standing buildings scattered around.

I looked at Hawthorne Army Depot (US) to compare, and that one is a lot less dense, but it's absolutely gigantic.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 day ago

That's like ten small nukes.

[–] [email protected] 116 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

Competent ones, I think they do.

Possible explanations:

  • yet another time, someone had set money aside for personal use, consequently the bunkers had doors made of plywood or roofing tin :)

  • arrival of drones was timed to match the loading / unloading of an ammunition train (that's when even competent militaries have to bring their stuff out)

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

They may not have enough manpower to guard a more distributed site, especially if they’re afraid of internal groups seizing some of it.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I guess we don't have an accurate source on what percentage of munitions his was.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I would confidently assume 100% of it was munitions

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

If you think of the fill percentage, I think that's too optimistic, since they're in a war. There is constant demand. However, even 50% would be an extremely big amount, and relieve Ukrainians from a lot of pressure (last year, when a similar thing happened in Toropets, it had effects on the front within weeks). This time, from the videos I saw, there was enough to keep detonating for a long time.

Whatever the fill percentage and loss percentage, the site is closed for a long time - if something remains, it cannot be reached, it has to be examined and re-certified. But more likely, very little will remain.

In the coming days, satellite photos will tell what the situation is.

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[–] [email protected] 46 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Kirzhach is on the far side of Moscow from Ukraine. Did the drones fly over Moscow to reach it, or did they take a longer route?

[–] [email protected] 63 points 1 day ago (1 children)

They may have been launched from within Russia.

[–] [email protected] 66 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Yeah, that’s the fun part of going to war with an adversary that was formerly a part of your empire: they have A LOT of people that can convincingly pass as your nationals - not to mention, there’s a small but meaningful percentage of your own citizens that are going to be sympathetic enough (due to family, social, and cultural connections) to that adversary that they’d be willing to act on their behalf for stuff like this.

[–] [email protected] 73 points 1 day ago (3 children)

This is what the Americans who support a war with Canada don’t realize.

[–] [email protected] 66 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

As an American, it is utterly insane to me that there’s a good number of Americans that are just like “huh yeah I guess we’re gonna bomb Canada to make them do what we want”.

Then again, there’s a lot of utterly insane things happening these days.

A lot of my countrymen are gonna be finding out about Type II “sorry” if we try any military adventurism. And I’m sure Greenlanders would welcome an expeditionary force of Finns, considering their rich and storied experience (5-6.5:1 KD ratio; ~5:1 overall casualty ratio, without even considering the Continuation War).

[–] [email protected] 37 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Type II “sorry”

Love this, and now that I see your username I find this quote has a Banksian quality to it.

Type I: I'm sorry
Type II: You'll be sorry

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (4 children)

It is absolutely an Iain M Banks reference (and thank you for noticing <3). I identify as a GSV.

Type II (alternate): said cheekily, immediately after finding a loophole in the Geneva Convention

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