Comradeship // Freechat

Back in the 1990's when they made it illegal for parents to assault their children in my country, the far right was pissing and moaning about it, calling it "a monstrously socialist law" and warning about anarchy.

The ban passed and no normal people felt any desire to go back to the barbarism of the past. The far right then began changing their opinion from "we want to hurt children" over "hurting children was fine when we were just white people but now that we have all these Muslims here we have to ban it because they're so violent and they can't control themselves" to "we don't hit our children here which proves how much more civilised we are".

It's strange to me that in America it is still fairly common in school environments. I've been majoring in secondary ed and the only thing I've heard about corporal punishment is how it does not work and there are decades of research proving that it does not work. Discipline should be used with children but hitting is not discipline.

We need more incorporeal punishments. Take the rod to Thatcher's ghost.

Kids these days just don't know discipline... back in my day we used to get beat up by our parents and I could beat my wife no questions asked... tired of this Vladimir Marxist bull shit... I can fart whenever I want... but I need to find a bathroom before shitting... land of the free... yeah right

Nah fr though, should be considered abuse deadass. Negative impacts all around. Everyone here touched on it all already. Don't mean to make light of it

The only time I ever got slapped by my parents and felt justified was the time I crossed the busy street running like it was just a funny game.

No excuse for it with kids, shouldn't be used against adults either.

Lenin banned it for a reason

I don't see a good argument for it needing to exist.

Should be illegal and considered child abuse

I'm willing to accept that it may be necessary, but I also think it is overused. IMO it should be a last resort.

Researchwise, it can be as effective as other disciplinary choices in preventing behaviour but has a higher chance of trauma, hatred of parents etc. So there's no real reason to keep it in a parents toolbox. Ethically, no. Kids are still people, just inexperienced and vulnerable and largely unable to care for themselves. If you consider other people who fill that category, we don't want to build a society where we treat those people like that.

Reflecting on the circumstances where corporal punishment was meted out to me and other kids I knew, it was usually when a parent was disrespected or humiliated by their child, or the parent was in a tense situation and angered by the child somehow. This sort of reactive behaviour is not what you'd want even if you did believe corporal punishment was valid.

My ideal model of parenting is where the community raises a child and the onus is less on an individual parent but rather the community. This would also mean (possibly) that a child is less of a source of pride and denigration to one parent, reducing a source of that reactive behaviour.

If I ever see my dad again I'm going to beat the dogshit out of him 😊 what goes around comes around 🤷🏿‍♂️

I think Corporals need to get punished if they break the rules. People of higher ranks need to be held accountable to the rules just like lower rank soldiers. I'm in favor of general punishment as well.

Hate it. Pretty sure its why I dont like to be touched, or be physically close, hugs, etc., among other things I struggle with, like mental health.

I got whooped as a kid and I turned out alright!

(THE DEMONS IN MY BRAIN YEARN FOR ESCAPE. AHHHGAGAHAHEHEHHFFUCKKKK)

Yeah, I turned out alright.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8237681/

https://news.harvard.edu/gazette/story/2021/04/spanking-children-may-impair-their-brain-development/

Not only is it cruel, it also makes children fear their parents

I'm 32 fucking years old and I still don't know how to cope with panic attacks without yelling at or hitting things. It's humiliating.

And in hindsight I'm pretty sure Dad was the exact same way. Just passed down the family.

Probably not great and shouldn't be encouraged.

It's CSA.

Thoughts on hitting small defenseless vulnerable humans who are still developing?

should only be used on adults who think they should be allowed to hit children

Found Caleb Maupin's account

When I had braces as a kid, my mum would hit me with a wooden spoon in the mouth, because the braces would cut my cheeks and wouldn't leave a visible mark. Corporal punishment is never about punishment, it's about cruelty and adults unable to control their temper and violent impulses towards those who can't fight back.

https://lemmygrad.ml/post/3211392

https://lemmygrad.ml/post/3616776

useless.

I don't see a need for it