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[–] [email protected] 66 points 1 month ago (11 children)

it is 2019, the 2060ti has 8gb of vram. it is 2020, the 3060ti has 8gb of vram. it is 2023, the 4060ti has 8gb of vram. it is 2025, the 5060ti has 8gb of vram.

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[–] [email protected] 46 points 1 month ago (2 children)

The whole fact that NVIDIA is not allowing AIBs to send the 8GB card to reviewers is quite telling. They are simply banking on illiterate purchasers, system integrators to sell this variant. That's another low for NVIDIA but hardly surprising anyone.

Planned obsolescence.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago

I agree, but it is still crazy that there are people out there making $500 plus purchases without the smallest bit of research. I really hope this card fails only for the reason that it deserves to.

[–] [email protected] 36 points 1 month ago (1 children)

This is worse than planned obsolescence. This is basically manufactured ewaste.

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[–] [email protected] 86 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (4 children)

tl:dw some the testing shows 300-500% improvements in the 16GB model. Some games are completely unplayable on 8GB while delivering an excellent experience on the 16GB.

It really does seem like Nvidia is intentionally trying to confuse their own customers for some reason.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

It really does seem like Nvidia is intentionally trying to confuse their own customers for some reason.

for money/extreme greed

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Okay well that's the low-hanging fruit but explain to me the correlation? How does confusing their customers fuel their greed?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Uninformed buyers will buy the 8GB card get a poor experience and will be forced to buy a new card sooner than later.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (4 children)

So their strategy is making and selling shitty cards at high prices? Don't you think that would just make consumers consider a competing brand in the future?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

Yea I don't know why buying a shitty product should convince me to throw more money at the company. They don't have a monopoly, so I would just go to their competitor instead.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago

For most consumers it might not, the amount of nvidia ~~propaganda~~ advertisement in games is huge.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

They had trouble increasing memory even before this AI nonsense. Now they have a perverse incentive to keep it low on affordable cards, to avoid undercutting their own industrial-grade products.

Which only matters thanks to anticompetitive practices leveraging CUDA's monopoly. Refusing to give up the fat margins on professional equipment is what killed DEC. They successfully miniaturized their PDP mainframes, while personal computers became serious business, but they refused to let those run existing software. They crippled their own product and the market destroyed them. That can't happen, here, because ATI is not allowed to participate in the inflated market of... linear algebra.

The flipside is: why the hell doesn't any game work on eight gigabytes of VRAM? Devs. What are you doing? Does Epic not know how a texture atlas works?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (3 children)

The flipside is: why the hell doesn’t any game work on eight gigabytes of VRAM? Devs. What are you doing? Does Epic not know how a texture atlas works?

It's not that they don't work.

Basically what you'll see is kinda like a cache miss, except the stall time to go 'oops, don't have that' and go out and get the required bits is very slow, and so you can see 8gb cards getting 20fps, and 16gb ones getting 40 or 60, simply because the path to get the missing textures is fucking slow.

And worse, you'll get big framerate dips and the game will feel like absolute shit because you keep running into hitches loading textures.

It's made worse in games where you can't reasonably predict what texture you'll get next (ex. Fortnite and other such online things that are you know, played by a lot of people) but even games where you might be able to reasonably guess, you're still going to run into the simple fact that the textures from a modern game are simply higher quality and thus bigger than the ones you might have had 5 years ago and thus 8gb in 2019 and 8gb in 2025 is not an equivalent thing.

It's crippling the performance of the GPU that may be able to perform substantially better, and for a relatively low BOM cost decrease. They're trash, and should all end up in the trash.

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[–] [email protected] 35 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

It really does seem like Nvidia is intentionally trying to confuse their own customers for some reason.

Its moreso for OEM system integrators, who can buy up thousands of these 5060ti's and sell them in systems as 5060Ti's, and the average Joe who buys prebuilts won't know to go looking at the bottom half of the tech sheet to see if its an 8 or 16.
As well as yes, direct scamming consumers, because Jensen needs more leather jackets off the AI craze and couldn't give a rats ass about gamers.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

I agree that they don't give half a shit about their actual product, but their biggest competitor has never been more competitive, and Nvidia knows it. Pissing off your costumer base when you don't have a monopoly is fucking stupid, and Nvidia and the prebuilt manufacturers knows this. It's business 101.

There's gotta be something else. I know businesses aren't known for making long term plans, because all that will ever matter to them is short term profits. But this is just way too stupid to be because of that.

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

To me it sounds like they are preying on the gamer who isn't tech savvy or are desperate. Just a continuation of being anti-consumer and anti-gamer.

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