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in Polish it would be "kupuj europejskie". the first word in the LLM slop is obsolete and in an incorrect, made up form.
I think that the fact that, at the moment of me writing this, almost half of the translations has been pointed out to be incorrect, is a great example of the usefulness of AI
Italian should be "acquista europeo" or (better, more colloquial ) "compra europeo". Acquistare Is the infinitive form, it would mean "to buy European".
Judging by the number of suggestions and corrections, this reminds me of one of those maps that manage to trigger everyone in some way. Also, goes to show that translating is hard.
Here’s an idea though. Make a “buy European” translation post in every European language specific community out there. Explain the core message of “buy European” in a a few sentences. Explain what the feeling, emotion and atmosphere would ideally be. Should be it be a command, recommendation, encouragement or something else. Ask which option fits best in that linguistic, historical and cultural context. Collect some options from the discussion. Make a poll etc.
gimme one of those maps
Used to see lots of those on Reddit, but I’m not touching that place again.
Usually, it was a map of Europe with the favorite food, national animal or whatever of each country. In the comments you could read about all the mistakes of that map. People would disagree about the favorite food, claim that it only applies to certain part of their country, find out that they even have a national bird, claim that the national bird was changed and the map has been outdated for 30 years etc. It was a wild ride pretty much every time.
"Köp europeiskt" in Swedish, alternatively "Handla europeiskt" that sounds more sophisticated, but technically "handel" encompasses all aspects of trade (buying, selling and trading) while "köpa" is exclusively the acts of buying.
Hungarian is incorrect. It should be "Vásárolj európait!"
This is the kind of understanding that LLMs can't mimic.
I would add a t to the swedish translation. "Köp Europeiskt"
Slovenian translation is awful and has no meaning. It would be translated back to english something like: "Slow euroajaian".
Correct translation would be:
I vote for 3. If it a label/brand/badge on a product. And 1. If this is US boycott slogan.
Thank you! Good thing I asked here, because that's pretty much what I expected.
I am also not sure for Croatian and other languages that have kupite instead of kupi. In slovenian kupi would be better suited for slogans or brands since it is used for a single person. But I am not sure since some languages are only similar but I do not speak Croatian or other languages. However in Slovenian to put something on a panel on a protest I would use "kupujte evropsko" meaning something like "you all should buy european".
However all versions can be used in all mentioned occasions. I just mentioned what would be better suited for what occasion.
Slovene(ian): Kupuj evropsko. LLM is shit.
Thanks! LLMs do struggle with short texts or slogans in non-English languages, even when provided context. I tried a few and wasn't confident any were right.
Can confirm Dutch. Buy European = koop Europees.
If the context requires the form 'buying European (products)' the order of words changes to 'Europese (producten) kopen'.
The Finnish translation states 'Buy a european'. It should be 'Osta Eurooppalaista'.
Where would one find one of those Europeans to buy? Asking for a friend.
The correct way for Finnish is: Osta eurooppalaista. Though if you want to say "you should buy European" (that's how I'd interpret the original intent) then you'd say: Ostathan eurooppalaista. The first one is more of a demand then a recommendation.
German is grammatically correct, but the "tone" is way off.
The intonation is identical to the anti-semitic boycott signs during the Third Reich ("Kauft nicht bei Juden").
"Unterstützt europäische Unternehmen" would be better.
Wow 😮 That's longer than I thought it would be. Is that what would also be written in ads, flyers, and posters? (Learning more about different languages is fun!)
German isn't really the right language for short, catchy slogans.
But "Kauft Europäisch" will trigger associations you don't want in Germany.
"Europäisch einkaufen" is the shortest I can come up with that is contextually neutral.
As a german dude I agree on everything what this user said.
The German translation is right but sounds a bit demanding in my opinion.
I think "Europäisch kaufen" sounds nicer and still matches the translation and meaning.
The German translation is right but sounds a bit demanding in my opinion.
It is supposed to be imperative, no? A call to action? Does your translation still convey that?
I'm actually starting to think that Buy European needs a wiki or something, so that people can contribute and it stays available instead of disappearing behind the "Hot" sorting algorithm. Then translations like yours could be recorded.
I would also find a wiki pretty usefull, could be potential for a new thread. My translation doesn't call to action. Your right we should stay with "Kauft europäisch".
Lithuanian is wrong. Should be "pirkite europietiškus produktus". The example you gave is better than the LLM but the accusative case of european sounds odd on it's own "buy european.. what?" It's like an unfinished sentence
@atro_city "Αγοράζετε ευρωπαϊκά" (aghorazete evropaika) (accents on raz & ka)
That's #4 of the "I have it on good authority" section isn't it? I copy-pasted it from your last comment 😉