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The White House said China is now facing up to a 245 percent tariff on imports to the U.S. "as a result of its retaliatory actions," another escalation in a trade war between the world's two largest economies.

The top potential tariff is higher than the previously stated 145 percent and was referenced in a fact sheet published by the White House late on Tuesday.

It accompanied an executive order signed by President Donald Trump that launched an investigation into the "national security risks posed by U.S. reliance on imported processed critical minerals and their derivative products."

Chinese foreign ministry spokesperson Lin Jian was asked about the 245 percent rate at a press briefing on Wednesday. "You can ask the U.S. side for the specific tax rate figures," Lin said, China News Network reported.

"This tariff war was initiated by the United States, and China's necessary countermeasures are to safeguard its legitimate rights and interests and international fairness and justice, which are completely reasonable and lawful."

Trump imposed a 10 percent tariff on imports from all countries. He has temporarily paused additional "reciprocal" rates set individually for each country depending on the trade barriers faced by the U.S. to allow time for negotiations on new deals.

The exception to that pause is China, which is facing increasingly higher tariffs from the U.S. and has responded in kind, among other countermeasures.

This week, China imposed more export controls on rare earths, which include materials used in high-tech products, aerospace manufacturing, and the defense sector.

Despite the eye-watering tariffs and tough rhetoric, both the U.S. and China have said they are open to talks on trade, though further tit-for-tat retaliation is likely in this conflict between two great powers.

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 3 weeks ago

October 2025: China will now face an ungabatillion percent tarrif! We can keep this going all day!

[–] [email protected] 22 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

The funniest outcome for this would be that China just stops trading with the US altogether and opens up trade with DPRK and Cuba.

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[–] [email protected] 68 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

China doesn't face a 245% tariff. Us US individuals and small businesses face a 245% tariff.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 3 weeks ago (11 children)

Sure, but this lowers US consumer demand for goods produced in China, giving the PRC motivation to seek increased economic ties elsewhere. China is negatively impacted by this in the short term, though they are better equipped to handle it due to actually holding the productive forces in the equation.

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[–] [email protected] 47 points 3 weeks ago (5 children)

i am not sure what else the us thinks it can leverage to demand that high of a tarriff.

i've read trump say china needs us demand and consumption. i haven't seen any facts and numbers to back that up.

[–] [email protected] 44 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

It's not insignificant by any stretch, but China was far more reliant on the US in the past. That's why they have been building up the Belt and Road Initiative and BRICs, to build up alternative customers in case the US ever made a hard pivot. The PRC is more than willing to ride the gravy train of US money flowing in for as long as it can last, as they can spend that time building up alternative customers, but had this been the 90s this very well may have worked for Trump. Too little too late, though.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

good point with the belt and road initiative as well as brics!

[–] [email protected] 22 points 3 weeks ago

Thanks! That's really been China's whole strategy this time since Deng, rapidly improve the productive forces as quickly as possible and never be overly reliant on any ties, especially not the US, as the US is firmly anti-communist and will eventually make a hard break with the PRC (the US thought it would go the same way as the USSR to Russian Federation, which ended up being false).

The PRC isn't doing BRICS and BRI for charity, nor for Imperialist control either. It's doing it for customers, which it needs in the long run in order to not be isolated and reliant on the US.

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[–] [email protected] 54 points 3 weeks ago

Will probably see further movements from the PRC to sell off US treasury bonds and shifting more away from the dollar in general, along with tighter export restrictions on rare Earth.

What would be incredibly based is if the PRC starts paying off loans in Africa with its dollars, decoupling the Global South from the US even further. Gets rid of dollars and debt in the Global South, potentially freeing up new customers for goods produced in China and strengthening ties.

[–] [email protected] 38 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

China's already said they wouldn't retaliate with tariffs anymore, so I wonder what their response will be.

More export controls on rare earths, or maybe selling off US treasury bonds?

[–] [email protected] 34 points 3 weeks ago

Sell the bonds and make maga cry harder. 'It worked for Japan and Canada.

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