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I’ve just watched the video. I find it pretty outrageous. The word about it should spread.

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 8 months ago (5 children)

I do not have any of GAFAM (Google, Apple, Facebook, Amazon, Microsoft) accounts and this is nice "achievement" to have in life for me.
Maybe if I would need them for something important like becoming a video creator, having to publish an Android app for a company or promote my buissness on social media I would create one. But for just one game it's a pass for me. The most important game in my life, but I have grown up and do not play it anymore.

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I still haven't migrated my Minecraft account. I don't have a Microsoft account and I don't want one. I'd prefer to lose the game.

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[–] [email protected] 57 points 8 months ago (3 children)

There is a reason they deactivated the accounts, but it doesn't justify removing the ability to migrate at any time. For those interested:

The old mojang accounts were not secure, and there were millions of accounts that could be accessed without email ownership. This created a grey market for cheap Minecraft accounts. These cheap accounts were almost exclusively used to cheat on non-cracked servers, which sucked for a lot of players who did competitive Minecraft games on servers. The migration did fix this problem, by requiring access to the original email or answers to the security questions. Migrating your mojang account also gave access to the windows 10 version of the game. It probably should have been allowed forever, and I have no clue why they didn't.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (3 children)

competitive Minecraft games

???

[–] [email protected] 15 points 8 months ago

Bedwars gets pretty competitive for example.

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Mojang accounts are not secure

Minecraft was the reason I started using password gens and managers, as my shit appeared in some list of usernames and passwords for the game that is still easily googled.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Hasn't for a long time for most junk

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[–] [email protected] 38 points 8 months ago (2 children)

I got locked out of my now 8+ year old account because I had set it up with an old ISP provided email which has since been deactivated. I can't migrate because I have to verify with the email and I can't change the email without setting up security questions, which also requires the email. Support can do nothing.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 8 months ago (1 children)

i used a Gmail account mostly for some videogames services but Google locked me out of that account after several years because i didn't provide a phone number for it after a few years and i refused to.... So a lot of my old game accounts can't be accessed anymore...

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[–] [email protected] 78 points 8 months ago (6 children)

Yeah, this is corporate bullshit. However...

Minecraft is a rare bird that lets you download every single public release (that was archived) all the way back to the original test builds. I recently re-downloaded 1.14 to play a unique seed that only loads all the features correctly on that version.

And when you play Minecraft, you download the entire game as a .jar file to your computer and it stays there, even if you upgrade to a later version. There are third-party launchers that let you load those .jars and play without logging into anything.

So, it's up to you whether or not you tow the company line and use a Microsoft account and the official launcher or just download some fan-made software and run the old versions forever.

I recommend anyone who lost their Mojang account to just dig out the latest version downloaded to their computer and run it through a custom launcher, or look up instructions on running the game without a launcher.

(This only applies to the Java version of the game, but that's the best version anyway because of features and custom mods. Playing roms of the console/mobile games requires modding the appropriate system and that's a lot more involved.)

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

Except for the iOS iPad version…

[–] [email protected] 25 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

I backed up all of my own files except the jars apparently (because when you download every one they added up, and I didn't do that when the servers were at stake). I even had a launcher still logged in but none of the files will download now. Prism is lame (but understandable, I guess) in that it just says "contact microsoft support if you didn't migrate" or something like that, but you can just copy over accounts.json from polymc to use an offline acct. Though a few mods I've tried don't work (and I feel like mod discoverability might not be the best?).

Also a small bit not directly in reply to you: I'm pretty sure this is actually the second migration too, at least for accounts that were started on the minecraft website (username-->email login+mojang acct). But of course searches only give info on this one.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 8 months ago

Also a small bit not directly in reply to you: I'm pretty sure this is actually the second migration too

Yup. First there were Minecraft logins, then Mojang accounts, now Microsoft accounts.

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[–] [email protected] 41 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Ah the joys of software as a service.

I do wish I could say it will pass, but the ability to sell someone something they already purchased is the holy grail of sales. This isn't going to go away, and the EULAs you agree to ensure that it is entirely legal.

The only way to fight back is to vote with your wallet - sadly in monopolies that isn't really an option.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 8 months ago

We need more FOSS. If our governments weren't utterly captured we could publicly fund worthwhile projects.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 8 months ago (3 children)

I migrated and they locked my new account. Now they're essentially extorting my phone number

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[–] [email protected] 135 points 8 months ago (5 children)

if buying isn't owning then piracy isn't stealing

there, upvotes to the left pls

[–] [email protected] 28 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)

As a fun aside, unauthorized sharing is the only reason I tried and bought the game back in early beta days before there was a demo (friend A owned, friend B didn't, I tried it from friend B's unauthorized copy of friend A's game and got the copy too, later gave friend A $20 and info to activate my account because I didn't have internet at home).

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[–] [email protected] -4 points 8 months ago

I've paid my upvote tax

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