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In December, Luigi Mangione was arrested for shooting health insurance executive Brian Thompson. Last week, Trump’s attorney general, Pam Bondi, announced that she was seeking the death penalty. It’s a highly unusual announcement, since Mangione hasn’t even been indicted yet on a federal level. (He has been indicted in Manhattan.) By intervening in this high-profile case, the Trump administration has made clear that it believes that CEOs are especially important people whose deaths need to be swiftly and mercilessly avenged.

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[–] [email protected] 29 points 5 days ago (3 children)

He'd became a martyr. The best chance way the ruling class could handle this is letting him go on the condition that he denies every publicity possible for a given years, even "just" imprisonment would communicate "we fear guys like this".

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[–] [email protected] 29 points 6 days ago (3 children)

This guy killed a patrician and now that class has totally seized controlled of government.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 6 days ago
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[–] [email protected] 27 points 6 days ago

He’s a real true America hero and a patriot! Que Viva Luigi!

[–] [email protected] 22 points 6 days ago (11 children)

So what are the odds of jury nullification on this case?

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[–] [email protected] 115 points 6 days ago (1 children)

None of this, of course, is to say that what Mangione did was justifiable or wise.

Um, fuck you? He hasn't been convicted and the author's assumption here, that Mangione is guilty of what he has been accused of, is part of the fucking problem.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 6 days ago

Damn, when did Jacobin get soft?

[–] [email protected] 16 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

ok but killing a millionaire is defensible

[–] [email protected] 54 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Not because they're a millionaire. Because they're a CEO whose policies directly resulted in unnecessary suffering and death.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Agreed, its a bit like self defense or defending others.

If you are armed and see a murder about to happen you CAN legally intervene with a firearm. You do not have to standby and let someone get killed.

UHC was killing thousands and apparently the government was/is fine with it. Thus ... it was a defensive killing.

This discussion would get me banned off of Reddit (again).

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[–] [email protected] 30 points 6 days ago (3 children)

Billionaires do deserve to die for being billionaires though.

You can't amass that type of wealth without being responsible for human suffering en masse. It's impossible.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 6 days ago (1 children)

yeah I think this distinction is important. we don’t need to kill the working professionals who saved money and invested wisely throughout their careers. many of those people will eventually be millionaires, but like, ones of millions.

once you get to hundreds of millions it starts to look like there was no possible moral way to arrive at that.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 6 days ago (1 children)

We should also make a distinction for the arts and artisans. In theory, an artist can sell their work for a billion dollars, making them a billionaire. I'm fine with that, because nobody gets exploited in the process. Like if an actor or rock star charges a billion dollars for a performance, or a painter charges a billion dollars for a painting, or a carpenter charges a billion to install hardwood floors. If people are willing to pay it, then I don't really see a problem.

That said, their wealth should still be taxed like a motherfucker.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I think there's still a pretty solid argument that its shitty to remain a billionare. If I won that kind of money on the lottery I'd set asside enough to retire very comfortably (and still feel a little bad about it) and then build affordable housing and shit.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 days ago

Hoarding that much money is, in my opinion, just as bad as hoarding a cure for cancer. There are like half a dozen people with enough wealth to eliminate hunger and homelessness worldwide, but every one of them refuses to lift a finger beyond performative bullshit for PR. The level of inhumanity it takes to be like that is off the charts. It's sociopathic.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 6 days ago

We live in a post-defensibility society.

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