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I don't like smartphones. I use a dumbphone.

But this is a wonderful initiative.

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[–] [email protected] 29 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (11 children)

I've owned the 4, for a couple of years. Was really excited to get one.

Parts have been unavailable for a long time when I needed them. The battery is pretty dead after 2 years meanwhile my pixel which is about 5 years old still going strong. The os is the buggiest experience I've ever had, sluggish, going from portrait the landscape kills UI formatting if it switches to power save it'll skip a video. Boot loops constantly.

Never again I'm afraid it's neat I could fix things with it so quickly but they fail hard past that.

Example navigation buttons have just covered the voyager ui

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 6 days ago (4 children)

The headphone jack user to lemmy user ratio is apparently nearly 1:1

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Please get through the FCC and open sales in the USA before Fairphone 6 is made.

I really don't want to buy another unrepairable phone.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Do you know why it's not in the US?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Idk, but if I had to guess, the answer is almost always money.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 6 days ago (2 children)

I really want this to come to the US as well..

Is this phone also more secure?

The problem we are running into right now is Apple and Google are colluding with the US government over fascism and they are supporting their Nazi regime

They have all the power and they can change all of these services overnight, they can track you and everything and you will have no idea and no way to get rid of it

We really need an open replacement. Phones are now used for everything

[–] [email protected] 24 points 6 days ago (9 children)

Is this phone also more secure?

Probably not.

Apple & Google have spent considerable amounts of time building out hardware security infrastructure for their products that I find it extremely unlikely Fairphone would have been able to match.

For example, the popular alternative Android OS GrapheneOS only supports Google Pixels, because: (Emphasis added by me)

"There are currently no other devices meeting even the most basic security requirements while running an alternate OS. GrapheneOS is very interested in supporting a non-Pixel brand, but the vast majority of Android OEMs do not take security seriously. Samsung takes security almost as seriously as Google, but they deliberately cripple their devices when unlock them to install another OS and don’t allow an alternate OS to use important security features. If Samsung permitted GrapheneOS to support their devices properly, many of their phones would be the closest to meeting our requirements. They’re currently missing the very important hardware memory tagging feature, but only because it’s such a new feature"

If even Samsung, the only other phone brand on the market they consider close to meeting their standards, doesn't support every modern hardware security feature, and deliberately cripples their security for alternate OS's, as a multi billion dollar company, I doubt Fairphone has custom-built hardware security mechanisms for their phones to the degree that Google has.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 6 days ago

I used a Fairphone 4 with /e/ and it was good. Not great, but useable. I expect the hardware bugs I ran into (using the camera only worked like 20 times before the phone needed a restart, Bluetooth randomly not working) to be ironed out by now. Currently on an old Samsung and it is more solid, but I also liked the environmentalism with the fairphone. Anyone with a Fairphone 5 and something like a glucose sensor thats in constant use?

[–] [email protected] 19 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Aaaand it's impossible to buy in the US. Even if USians want to do the right thing, we're not permitted.

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