In America sure.
Rest of the world, it would be very much limited to a very, very small minority that would be lost to cancer.
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Asbestos must have seemed like a fucking miracle material. Suddenly, our tinderbox world was fireproof. You can build bricks, lightweight cladding, roofing and fences for houses, car parts, curtains, electrical switchboards and protective clothing out of it without the incessant fear of a house fire or clothing fire that was constantly killing people and maiming kids. It wasn't synthetic or petroleum based, you could just dig it out of the ground. Yeah it would absolutely have supporters. They would be dumb, but they would exist.
I remember my dad being angry that they were phasing out leaded petrol and he had to buy a seperate additive to put in the Datsun fuel.
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Asbestos? More like Asworstos! Am I right?
Whats ruzzia's position on asbestos?
Most asbestos is made in Russia currently so definitely
They would huff that shit claiming its so great.
Absolutely would be, yes
Wasn't Trump literally trying to bring it back last time?
https://whyy.org/articles/trump-wants-to-make-asbestos-great-again/
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LOL. Imagine seeing asbestos truthers coughing on their deathbed swearing that it’s completely harmless and that there’s a global conspiracy against it.
I mean, we can probably just find/replace asbestos for Covid - it will be the same people making the same crazy claim.
Many crazy ideas seem to go hand in hand. If you’re into flat earth nonsense, there’s a pretty good chance you also oppose vaccines, drink colloidal silver and believe in intergalactic lizards.
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They are probably coughing because of the ~~cigarettes~~ ~~car exhaust fumes~~ ~~air pollution~~ goddamn libs
I need my full lead gasoline
At least using asbestos has some value. If we had not found alternatives we would still be using it. One reason measures were taken to improve safety in manufacturing rather than just banning from the get go was lack of alternatives. What im trying to say is pro-asbestos is not as coocoo crazy as anti vax and such.
We do have alternatives to vaccines though:
You simply ban abortion and sex education which increases the birth rate and therefore it doesn't matter that a few babies die from preventable illnesses.
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It's still pretty bonkers to know something will kill you if you use it, and we just ignore all the science.
Water will kill you if you don't use it with care, but everybody older than a baby uses it despite clear science on how deadly it is.
The relevant question is can we mitigate risk enough.
100% of people who have come into contact with water will die.
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That would be tobacco.
Asbestos is not dangerous when it is in a solid form and left alone, which is the vast majority of the use cases. It becomes dangerous when it is damaged, since that lets the fibers into the air. That is why in residential areas we leave it alone, but if it needs to be removed then hazmat type safety equipment is required. We leave it alone, which is the normal use, because removing it is the unsafe situation.
Asbestos should be banned for anything other than extremely well regulated industrial situations that may need it like any other hazardous material.
I'm full of microplastics but I keep buying food and drink packaged in plastic _(--)/
Sometimes there's just no realistic alternative. As nice as it would be to only buy fresh, unpacked food I don't have the time, money or energy to deal with that
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Depends who would ban it. From my life experience, we have one side that definitely would because they get mad at anything the other side. ANYTHING. While the other side is typically more rational and has critical thinking skills.
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Satire article? Please tell me that's a satire article?
Oh lol, it actually is. That wasn't intended.
It's ok, it's not your fault, I read this:
“RFK told Trump that materials such as cellulose and fiberglass cause autism and that to MAHA they’d have to lean hard on asbestos which he claims has no known health risks. Trump is now committed to making asbestos great again”
and was like, that does sound like something he would say
Trump dismissed the “so-called facts” and told The Times,
So does that, wasn't until I saw the other articles in the sidebar that it clicked
Hate to break it to you: https://www.archpaper.com/2018/08/epa-asbestos-manufacturing/
Asbestos was used because of it's flame retardation and it's easy to make. Provided it's properly encapsulated and does not become damaged risk can be mitigated. Preventing damage is the hard part, no one plans for a tree to fall on their house. Maybe if everyone just wears a air mask all the time we wouldn't have to worry about it.
Yea, but doesnt everything get damaged? And even if its while breaking it down when disposing/recycling/dumping it?
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O.O
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